Need a decent, 23-24" LCD monitor

Shwick · Oct 4, 2011

Originally I was looking at 2x Asus VH238H,
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117&Tpk=VH238H

I've heard of IPS panel monitors, but aren't those not as good for gaming?

I've just heard of ghosting/backlight bleeding/high response time problems that make me not wnat to spend extra. I don't want a slightly better picture with extra problems for $400.

So is the Asus VH238H just fine?

I.M.O.G. · Oct 4, 2011

What sort of resolution or screen real estate are you looking for? What is your usage? Gaming?

Here's a recent discussion involving IPS monitors, I've heard under 8ms rating is what you want for gaming on these to avoid ghosting/blur:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685344

Here's why you want an IPS:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685129

Same price as what you are considering:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236122

\dev\goat · Oct 4, 2011

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-2...-Bundle-S24A300B-includes-2-monitors/16683132

i highly recommend. they are 200 bucks each at walmart or 350 for the bundle.

I.M.O.G. · Oct 4, 2011

@goat: The walmart price rocks, $260 at newegg. Any other reason you recommend it?

pwnmachine · Oct 4, 2011

\dev\goat said:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-2...-Bundle-S24A300B-includes-2-monitors/16683132

i highly recommend. they are 200 bucks each at walmart or 350 for the bundle.

++1 for an awesome price and a pair of excellent monitors 24" at that!

\dev\goat · Oct 4, 2011

Monitors are a hard topic to discuss via text on a forum. I bought the 24" samsung to replace a 42" LG 1080p as my primary gaming monitor one day and I am extremely pleased with the results. The colors are just incredibly vivid, the image is crisp, and it's BRIGHT. Better quality than my 42" LG, in a smaller package that I can sit closer to, takes less power, doesn't get hot as hell.

I almost bought this one from dell:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&sku=224-8284

$900 27" ips panel. I had it in my cart and I was typing in my credit card info when I decided I would go check out walmart first. I'm glad I did.

Your monitor is the gateway to the computer. The fastest computer in the world is worthless without a nice monitor, keyboard, and mouse. But you gotta draw your own line in the sand between the best quality for the best price.

I.M.O.G. · Oct 4, 2011

Nice man, thanks. A little personal experience goes a long way in my book. It can be pretty subjective like comparing audio gear, but still.

Thanks for elaborating.

Shwick · Oct 4, 2011

I.M.O.G. said:
What sort of resolution or screen real estate are you looking for? What is your usage? Gaming?

Here's a recent discussion involving IPS monitors, I've heard under 8ms rating is what you want for gaming on these to avoid ghosting/blur:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685344

Here's why you want an IPS:
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685129

Same price as what you are considering:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236122

thanks

people are all complaining of backlight bleed on that monitor you recommended

also that samsung looks decent

I dunno, would it be worth it to buy an IPS 23" or 24" monitor? I'm wondering if I should pay more for one for good quality. I don't know which though

I.M.O.G. · Oct 4, 2011

Cool. Don't put too much stock in my opinion, I'm no monitor expert. I'm not sure what backlight bleed even is to be honest.

I'd probably go with Goat's suggestion given the price and his positive notes.

Shwick · Oct 4, 2011

After doing some research I'm deciding between these two monitors, Dell U2311H vs Asus ML239H... hmmm...

BossBorot · Oct 4, 2011

\dev\goat said:
Your monitor is the gateway to the computer. The fastest computer in the world is worthless without a nice monitor, keyboard, and mouse. But you gotta draw your own line in the sand between the best quality for the best price.

well put.

Before buying it is a good idea to check out Craigslist for ultrasharps as prices tend to be more reasonable on them then other used high quality monitors.

the 2007wfp can be had for $80 where I live and is a great monitor for that price but unfortunately it is only 1680x1050. The 2007fp, 4:3, can also be found cheap for what it is and they work very well next to a 24" 1920x1200 and also in portrait next to a 30".

For cheaper and lower quality e-ips screens, which is what you are looking at now it seems, the dell u2211h and 2311h can be found from $150-250 and are very good screens with good connectivity and adjustments which I would consider a step above the samsungs.

The best 24" is a u2410 which sometimes can be found for $250 but usually is closer to the $400 mark. It has everything you want on a high end monitor and uses a full ips screen not the cheaper e-ips.

Shwick · Oct 4, 2011

BossBorot said:
well put.

Before buying it is a good idea to check out Craigslist for ultrasharps as prices tend to be more reasonable on them then other used high quality monitors.

the 2007wfp can be had for $80 where I live and is a great monitor for that price but unfortunately it is only 1680x1050. The 2007fp, 4:3, can also be found cheap for what it is and they work very well next to a 24" 1920x1200 and also in portrait next to a 30".

For cheaper and lower quality e-ips screens, which is what you are looking at now it seems, the dell u2211h and 2311h can be found from $150-250 and are very good screens with good connectivity and adjustments which I would consider a step above the samsungs.

The best 24" is a u2410 which sometimes can be found for $250 but usually is closer to the $400 mark. It has everything you want on a high end monitor and uses a full ips screen not the cheaper e-ips.

yeah but does the u2410 have the low response time that the U2311H has?

monitorgeek · Oct 5, 2011

Who says IPS monitors are poor when playing games? I use LG IPS 2370v http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/monitors/LG-led-monitor-E2370V-BF.jsp and it works perfect with any 3D fps games.

Metlcub · Oct 6, 2011

I love my Samsung SynchMaste Bx2331 23" 2ms.. it's a great LED monitor.

freakdiablo · Oct 6, 2011

monitorgeek said:
Who says IPS monitors are poor when playing games? I use LG IPS 2370v http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/monitors/LG-led-monitor-E2370V-BF.jsp and it works perfect with any 3D fps games.

I think it goes back when LCDs were just getting started. IPS panels had longer refresh times which led to ghosting in games and movies. These days the refresh rates are low enough that you don't really get any.

Pinky · Oct 10, 2011

That's why I have a furry steering wheel and glitter on my brake/accelerator. They're the gateway to my car!

\dev\goat · Oct 10, 2011

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