EVGA Untouchables Released

hokiealumnus · 01-25-12, 07:40 AM

Mmm....electronics torturing at its best! This little beast is awesome. It's nice to see EVGA stepping up and producing such a cool niche product and actually bringing it to production.

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Originally Posted by TiN

ALL

Long-time awaited moment, thing that noone does before.
All-mighty EVGA's "The Untouchables" EPOWER available.

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...0Hardware&sw=4

EPOWER card is designed to operate with two voltage outputs :

VCORE output– Voltage adjustment range of 800mV to 2000mV. Current source up to 400 A.
VDIMM output – Voltage adjustment range of 1000mV to 5000mV. Current source up to 80 A.

Minimum requirements

Minimum 600W (42A on +12V rail) power supply with two or three 6-pin PCI-Express supplementary power connector cable for each EPOWER card used in system.

This device is intended only for advanced user use with basic electronics experience. EPOWER is covered only by DOA warranty

Basic usage guide:

1. Disconnect stock VRM power inductor on desired channel
2. Open copper plane for ground and power on target device
3. Solder thick (AWG10-AWG12) wires from EPOWER GND to ground and VCORE or VDIMM points to power.
4. Default startup voltage on VCORE – 1200mV, VDIMM – 1500mV. Maximum current for VCORE – 400A, VDIMM 80A.
5. Good rule to follow – one pair of wires (VCORE+GND) per each 10-15A. For simple VGA like with 2-3 phase VRM best to use 4-8 wire pairs. For high-end VGA should be no less than 10-15 wire pairs. Top GPUs like GF100, GF110 must use as many pairs as possible physically.
6. Multiple wires reduce voltage drop under idle and load states. If drop (difference of voltage between EPOWER card and GPU capacitor voltage near package) is more than 100mV – more wires are needed to compensate.
7. EPOWER card requires forced airflow under heavy load conditions. User can use onboard 3-pin FAN connector.
8. After connecting EPOWER to GPU always check resistance between power and GND to ensure no shorts. Normal resistance range for GPU is 0.5-10 ohm, for memory – 5-200 ohm.
9. For videocards with advanced PWMs (>3 phase) check VR_ENABLE signals and VR_PGOOD (power good).
10. Connect PCI-Express power to EPOWER card AND videocard. If you don’t use secondary power on EPOWER (3phase) you can leave “INPUT DIMM” connector not connected.
11. If after power on voltage is OK, but system does not detect videocard – cut VR_PGOOD trace near onboard PWM on videocard. This will prevent onboard VRM to reset GPU (because onboard power is not used – it’s fault state for it)
12. For voltage adjustment on EPOWER use EVGA EVBOT with X58 motherboard firmware. VCORE voltage is CPU Voltage, VDIMM is Memory voltage on EVBOT.

For more details and user experience you can check links below.

Retail price is $99.99 USD for this power monster. Shipping price not included.

Refer to EVGA's page linked above for ordering.

Some people already tried this unit during their OC sessions and had lots of fun.

English-speakers:

http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1412
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=744
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1275671&mpage=1
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1558
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=678874
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=154308
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=219478
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPJyp...2&feature=plcp
http://it-service.be/forum/index.php?topic=629.0

Other languages:

http://www.hwbox.gr/news-h-o-t-hwbot...-sta-oria.html
http://xtremelabs.org/index.php?location=news&url=192
http://www.dinoxpc.com/News/news.asp...bles%22+by+TiN
http://dml.compkaluga.ru/forum/index...howtopic=34513

Original post by TiN @ KPC forums.

EDIT - I didn't know ONE place to put this, so I just made a bunch of redirects for its ultimate home in the benchmarking section.

MattNo5ss · 01-25-12, 08:16 AM

Actually available for purchase? That's a surprise! Makes me wish I knew how to solder electronics...

bmwbaxter · 01-25-12, 08:26 AM

So now that these are availible it seems like it's time to buy a cheap reference card and then mod it. No need to buy high end cards with better vrms since this can transfer between cards.

EDIT: any chance the frontpage will be graced with a review?

hokiealumnus · 01-25-12, 08:32 AM

Heh, I'm not good enough to mess with one of these, but it would be nice to have a definitive 'this helped get X MHz on X card'. Before I ask, we'd need a perfect storm of a reviewer with a) lots of electronics know-how and b) a GPU pot. Bobnova comes to mind...does he have a GPU pot?

Convicted1 · 01-25-12, 08:34 AM

Vince told me about 3 months ago that these were on the way!

Good to see that he wasn't just hoping!

This is awesome!

Janus67 · 01-25-12, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hokiealumnus

Heh, I'm not good enough to mess with one of these, but it would be nice to have a definitive 'this helped get X MHz on X card'. Before I ask, we'd need a perfect storm of a reviewer with a) lots of electronics know-how and b) a GPU pot. Bobnova comes to mind...does he have a GPU pot?

If he doesn't he can borrow my fat.

nzaneb · 01-25-12, 08:56 AM

Mmmm, yummy.

bmwbaxter · 01-25-12, 08:58 AM

He should have the team loaner slim gpu pot. But a phat will do it more justice.

Bobnova · 01-25-12, 09:33 AM

I have a fat 6.0, and a desperate need for an untouchables.
I do not, however, have an evbot.

hokiealumnus · 01-25-12, 09:37 AM

Hmm...that makes things difficult. Make that item c) needs EVBot.

Bobnova · 01-25-12, 09:40 AM

It's worth noting that I'm buying one of these suckers and an evbot the very moment one of my review items sells.

Janus67 · 01-25-12, 10:32 AM

I believe MattNo5 has a EVBot

MattNo5ss · 01-25-12, 10:41 AM

On the Untouchables webpage it says "EVBot with X58 firmware" but I have GTX580 firmware. You can only flash the EVBot with a EVBot compatible EVGA mobo.

No USB for flashing = One of the dumbest ideas ever... It means less people buy EVBot since they can't flash it...

So, if I were to let you borrow it, I'd have to ship it off to get flashed, ship it to you, you use for testing, then you ship it to get reflashed, then you ship it back to me.

Convicted1 · 01-25-12, 10:44 AM

Then how is the EVBot flashed?

Or do they expect you to buy one for each different Firmware?

EDIT: Seems you have to have an EVBot compatibe EVGA Mobo to flash it.... That's freakin' retarded.

MattNo5ss · 01-25-12, 10:45 AM

EVBot compatible motherboard only. Don't have one or know someone with one? Then, buy one b/c you're SOL...

Convicted1 · 01-25-12, 10:48 AM

Hmmm... Well I like some of the features of the EVGA MoBo's... And wouldn't mind trying one... But I've never heard of any great results coming from their use, so I always stray away from them.

Bobnova · 01-25-12, 10:48 AM

I'll be acquiring one shortly, I may need to have it flashed but that's just fine as it'll only be used for untouchables anyway.

MattNo5ss · 01-25-12, 10:50 AM

The EVBot comes with X58 firmware by default, so if you're getting it new, then no need to flash.

Bobnova · 01-25-12, 10:55 AM

EVBot stocks are drying up everywhere this morning.
Amazons are dropping fast, other retailers are OOS.
This is brutal!

MattNo5ss · 01-25-12, 10:59 AM

They're still on EVGA's site, but they're back up to $100... Got mine on sale for $50

01-25-12, 08:16 AM	#2
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01-25-12, 08:26 AM	#3
bmwbaxter Premium Member #5 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London, Ontario, Canada	So now that these are availible it seems like it's time to buy a cheap reference card and then mod it. No need to buy high end cards with better vrms since this can transfer between cards. EDIT: any chance the frontpage will be graced with a review?
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01-25-12, 08:32 AM	Thread Starter #4
hokiealumnus Water Cooled Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC	Heh, I'm not good enough to mess with one of these, but it would be nice to have a definitive 'this helped get X MHz on X card'. Before I ask, we'd need a perfect storm of a reviewer with a) lots of electronics know-how and b) a GPU pot. Bobnova comes to mind...does he have a GPU pot? __________________ Enjoy benchmarks? Join the benching team! \| New to water cooling? Read the Beginner's Guide to Water Cooling Your PC. xsuperbgx - "As a wise man once said: "Less talky. More clocky."" \| cyberfish - "When overclocked, it's undefined behavior." I.M.O.G. - "Vaseline on Ivy Bridge is a bad idea. But not so bad of an idea that it can't be fixed with a torpedo heater, a dishwasher, an oven, and a few hours. " \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ - Join Now! - My mITX Build
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01-25-12, 08:34 AM	#5
Convicted1 Premium Member #2 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake of the Ozarks, Mo	Vince told me about 3 months ago that these were on the way! Good to see that he wasn't just hoping! This is awesome! __________________ xXSebaSXx: "Fan reviews are easy. Spin up to full speed, stick finger into spinning blades. If blades break and finger remains the fan is no good; if the other way around happens then fan is a keeper." Bobnova: "I went squeeeeee like a teenager with the new muave Pokemon when I saw that foam..." I.M.O.G.: "CPU and GPU are at -10C, and there's water everywhere. Meh, windows updates are slightly less boring when done underwater." My Heat My HWBOT
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01-25-12, 08:58 AM	#8
bmwbaxter Premium Member #5 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: London, Ontario, Canada	He should have the team loaner slim gpu pot. But a phat will do it more justice.
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01-25-12, 09:33 AM	#9
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01-25-12, 09:37 AM	Thread Starter #10
hokiealumnus Water Cooled Moderator Overclockers.com Lead Editor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC	Hmm...that makes things difficult. Make that item c) needs EVBot. __________________ Enjoy benchmarks? Join the benching team! \| New to water cooling? Read the Beginner's Guide to Water Cooling Your PC. xsuperbgx - "As a wise man once said: "Less talky. More clocky."" \| cyberfish - "When overclocked, it's undefined behavior." I.M.O.G. - "Vaseline on Ivy Bridge is a bad idea. But not so bad of an idea that it can't be fixed with a torpedo heater, a dishwasher, an oven, and a few hours. " \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ - Join Now! - My mITX Build
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01-25-12, 09:40 AM	#11
Bobnova Air Superiority Senior Member Benching Team Leader Join Date: May 2009 Location: Humboldt	It's worth noting that I'm buying one of these suckers and an evbot the very moment one of my review items sells. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe) How to check your PSU with a multimeter. 17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7 Heatware.
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01-25-12, 10:32 AM	#12
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01-25-12, 10:41 AM	#13
MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	On the Untouchables webpage it says "EVBot with X58 firmware" but I have GTX580 firmware. You can only flash the EVBot with a EVBot compatible EVGA mobo. No USB for flashing = One of the dumbest ideas ever... It means less people buy EVBot since they can't flash it... So, if I were to let you borrow it, I'd have to ship it off to get flashed, ship it to you, you use for testing, then you ship it to get reflashed, then you ship it back to me. __________________ i7 3770K \| Asus Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| eVGA GTX670 SC \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP i7 2700K \| Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 \| 4x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 \| eVGA GTX680 \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando\| Whatever I Can Find Laying Around... O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (89-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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01-25-12, 10:44 AM	#14
Convicted1 Premium Member #2 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake of the Ozarks, Mo	Then how is the EVBot flashed? Or do they expect you to buy one for each different Firmware? EDIT: Seems you have to have an EVBot compatibe EVGA Mobo to flash it.... That's freakin' retarded. __________________ xXSebaSXx: "Fan reviews are easy. Spin up to full speed, stick finger into spinning blades. If blades break and finger remains the fan is no good; if the other way around happens then fan is a keeper." Bobnova: "I went squeeeeee like a teenager with the new muave Pokemon when I saw that foam..." I.M.O.G.: "CPU and GPU are at -10C, and there's water everywhere. Meh, windows updates are slightly less boring when done underwater." My Heat My HWBOT
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01-25-12, 10:45 AM	#15
MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	EVBot compatible motherboard only. Don't have one or know someone with one? Then, buy one b/c you're SOL... __________________ i7 3770K \| Asus Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| eVGA GTX670 SC \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP i7 2700K \| Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 \| 4x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 \| eVGA GTX680 \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando\| Whatever I Can Find Laying Around... O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (89-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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01-25-12, 10:48 AM	#16
Convicted1 Premium Member #2 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lake of the Ozarks, Mo	Hmmm... Well I like some of the features of the EVGA MoBo's... And wouldn't mind trying one... But I've never heard of any great results coming from their use, so I always stray away from them. __________________ xXSebaSXx: "Fan reviews are easy. Spin up to full speed, stick finger into spinning blades. If blades break and finger remains the fan is no good; if the other way around happens then fan is a keeper." Bobnova: "I went squeeeeee like a teenager with the new muave Pokemon when I saw that foam..." I.M.O.G.: "CPU and GPU are at -10C, and there's water everywhere. Meh, windows updates are slightly less boring when done underwater." My Heat My HWBOT
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01-25-12, 10:50 AM	#18
MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	The EVBot comes with X58 firmware by default, so if you're getting it new, then no need to flash. __________________ i7 3770K \| Asus Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| eVGA GTX670 SC \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP i7 2700K \| Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 \| 4x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 \| eVGA GTX680 \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando\| Whatever I Can Find Laying Around... O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (89-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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01-25-12, 10:55 AM	#19
Bobnova Air Superiority Senior Member Benching Team Leader Join Date: May 2009 Location: Humboldt	EVBot stocks are drying up everywhere this morning. Amazons are dropping fast, other retailers are OOS. This is brutal! __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." -- Einstein (maybe) How to check your PSU with a multimeter. 17bXw5t51rEBXGavJFMJsC8g7HQgThUGc7 Heatware.
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01-25-12, 10:59 AM	#20
MattNo5ss b4n4n4 dr4g0n d00m3d m0d3r4t0r Overclockers.com Editor Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AL	They're still on EVGA's site, but they're back up to $100... Got mine on sale for $50 __________________ i7 3770K \| Asus Maximus V Gene \| 4x2GB Dominator GT DDR3-1600 6-6-6-20 \| eVGA GTX670 SC \| 50GB OCZ Vertex 2 \| SeaSonic SS-1000XP i7 2700K \| Gigabyte G1.Sniper M3 \| 4x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3-1600 7-8-7-24 \| eVGA GTX680 \| 256GB OCZ Vertex 4 \| SeaSonic X750 E8700/E6750/P4 631 \| Rampage Extreme & EP45T-Extreme & Commando\| Whatever I Can Find Laying Around... O/C Author Profile \| HWBot Profile \| Heatware (89-0-0) \m/ OverClockers mATX L33T Club \m/ Projects: Copper-Framed, MDF Station \| PVC-Framed, MDF Station \| Custom Cascade Cart/Case \| Untitled TJ07 Build
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