OC-Master who says its an Engineering sample? You merely hypothesised this based on the E (I presume the E7) on the cpu . I go back to the original claim whereby a female packer said she saw the new stepping and subsequently decided to take a picture - she also said this stepping would be on lower speed TBred B's. Seriously do you really think that a Malaysian female packer would be that knowledgable about this kind of stuff? This seems to me to be one major leg-pull unfortunately some people are getting suckered into it. Why not list the newsgroup you pulled it from (I have Agent and Easynews.com) and I will ask "her" some questions about Malaysia which will require local knowledge to answer? That way we can at least determine this person is from Malaysia and will give some credibility to the story.