Just looking for some feedback.

[Sevan P]

Hey guy I am in the process of building a high end rig for our cad cam department. We are running a software called 3Shape dental designer.

Here is my current lay out

Intel i7-7800X 3.5ghz 6core
Asus Strix x299_E Gaming LGA2066
G.Skill Trident (8X8gb) DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34
Samsung 960 EVI 1TB SSD m.2 (Main OS drive)
WD Black 2TB HDD (Storage)
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3
EVGA SuperNOVA 850W 80+ psu
Noctua NH-D15

I feel it is a decent rig just questioning the ram mainly.

Thought?

Thanks

 

[Tír na nÓg]

Ram is good.

Sure you need a 1080ti?

Not fond of Asus hardware (lot of issues in my case, and horrendous customer service I don't).

A quality 600w PSU is more than enough, even with the CPU/gpu overclocked to the max.

 

[TimoneX]

Not sure what benefit comes from 8x8 vs 4x16. Dual rank sticks should be a bit cheaper, offer higher bandwidth at same speed, and allow for future expansion.

Also not a fan of the 960 EVO drive as it's not very good at sustained writes that don't fit within its cache structure, has poor endurance, and only has a 3yr or 400TBW warranty(whichever comes first). Frankly, there are better buys, including Samsung's own 960 Pro.

 

[Sentential]

Not sure what benefit comes from 8x8 vs 4x16. Dual rank sticks should be a bit cheaper, offer higher bandwidth at same speed, and allow for future expansion.

Also not a fan of the 960 EVO drive as it's not very good at sustained writes that don't fit within its cache structure, has poor endurance, and only has a 3yr or 400TBW warranty(whichever comes first). Frankly, there are better buys, including Samsung's own 960 Pro.

I second all of those and want to add. Are you sure that this isn't better suited for a Naples/Xeon 2P configuration? Do you know if 3Shape dental designer uses CUDA or OpenCL? I'm not trying to lecture you I'm genuinely trying to help. Also do you know how it responds to multi-threading? I'll be honest what you built is a rock solid gaming computer but I question if it is best suited for the application you are trying to use it for.

 

[caddi daddi]

^^^^^^ this^^^^^^
you're building a great rig, but what does the software want, cpu or gpu?
I get a feeling it wants all the cpu it can get and the gpu is just a display device.

 

[trents]

An 850W PSU is overkill for a system with only 1 video card.

 

[trents]

Is the software capable of utilizing the GPU for processing/rendering? Like say, Photoshop? Just asking what caddi daddi is in other terms.

 

[Daleon]

This looks like the wrong kind of build. Are you running this software now? On what kind of machine and how does it run?
If you were building a gamer what you selected would be good but its pretty unfocused for a workstation.
How many CPU cores can it use? Will it really make use of 64 gb of ram?

Looking at the software it mostly looks like integrated devices with a little bit of dental modeling. If your trying to speed up rendering you want a Quadro not a Geforce.
What size files are you working? Do the integrated devices need high disk IO performance?

Could go with something along these lines:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQtCxY

 

[Sevan P]

Thanks guys, really good input. I will rethink parts of the build from this input.

I second all of those and want to add. Are you sure that this isn't better suited for a Naples/Xeon 2P configuration? Do you know if 3Shape dental designer uses CUDA or OpenCL? I'm not trying to lecture you I'm genuinely trying to help. Also do you know how it responds to multi-threading? I'll be honest what you built is a rock solid gaming computer but I question if it is best suited for the application you are trying to use it for.

Xenon was my other thought, i know it is outstanding for CAM software we use, my friend bought a lenovo e5 xenon and cut calculation times more then half. It is a thought, 3Shape uses more cpu then gpu, newer version will most likely utilize more of the GPU. Thank you for your input.

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This looks like the wrong kind of build. Are you running this software now? On what kind of machine and how does it run?
If you were building a gamer what you selected would be good but its pretty unfocused for a workstation.
How many CPU cores can it use? Will it really make use of 64 gb of ram?

Looking at the software it mostly looks like integrated devices with a little bit of dental modeling. If your trying to speed up rendering you want a Quadro not a Geforce.
What size files are you working? Do the integrated devices need high disk IO performance?

Could go with something along these lines:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fQtCxY

Running the software on a HP Z230 what it came wit, upgrade the ram from 16 to 32gb, samsung evo 850 ssd(2.5) and 2tb WD black hdd for storage, and a GTX 960 runs smooth but larger cases design everything lags more. Also running it on a dell 8900 with gtx 960 and 32gb ram. Just want a more robust build specifically for larger cases which we are seeing more of.

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Ram is good.

Sure you need a 1080ti?

Not fond of Asus hardware (lot of issues in my case, and horrendous customer service I don't).

A quality 600w PSU is more than enough, even with the CPU/gpu overclocked to the max.

Had a Asus build with now issues current home build is on Gigabyte, but have been looking at MSI lately. Okay will look into a 600watt psu maybe platnium over gold?

 

[trents]

Platinum will save you a few pennies each month on the electricity bill as they are more energy efficient but other than that gold will do quite well. EVGA has some well made 650W Nova series PSUs that are very popular with people on this forum.

 

[Sevan P]

First version
Intel i7-7800X 3.5ghz 6core
Asus Strix x299_E Gaming LGA2066
G.Skill Trident (8X8gb) DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34
Samsung 960 EVI 1TB SSD m.2 (Main OS drive)
WD Black 2TB HDD (Storage)
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3
EVGA SuperNOVA 850W 80+ psu
Noctua NH-D15

Newer version
Intel i7-7800X 3.5ghz 6core
MSI X299 GAMING M7 ACK LGA 2066 Intel X299 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 Intel Motherboard *
2x G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-32GTZA *
Samsung 960 PRO 1TB SSD m.2 (Main OS drive) *
WD Black 2TB HDD (Storage)
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 220-P2-0650-X1 80+ PLATINUM 650W Fully Modular EVGA ECO Mode *
Noctua NH-D15

 

[Daleon]

Looks pretty good. If you had any room I'd consider the extra 200 hundo for a 7820X.

 

[trents]

Have you given any consideration to going with a quadro/FirePro professional graphics workstation type card?

 

[bigtallanddopey]

Have you given any consideration to going with a quadro/FirePro professional graphics workstation type card?

I would echo this statement as 9/10 industry software will benefit from these specialised cards rather than the gaming 1080.

I would check with the software manufacturers what they recommend.

I would also look into the Xeon processor ranges as you are building something that will be used every day and you want it to last for years. In my experience Xeon processors require less cooling and maintenance over there life time compared to a mainstream processor.

In my work station I have the Xeon E5-1650 which is 6 core at 3.6 ghz. The same as your suggestion. It would be the more expensive route but in the long run may give you a more stable experience

 

[Daleon]

Its becoming more of a toss up these days between the high end cards and Quadro line. I did recommend the P4000 but doing some research the advantages of ram and speed often wipe out the advantages of the professional card. If you need ECC VRAM though then you want a professional card. The P4000 will run cooler and handle heavy day in day out usage for long periods of time though I don't think your doing that heavy of work.

 

[Sevan P]

Looks pretty good. If you had any room I'd consider the extra 200 hundo for a 7820X.

Yes I do.

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Have you given any consideration to going with a quadro/FirePro professional graphics workstation type card?

I know of people running quadro cards and are having issues, this software seems to like the gtx series.

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I would echo this statement as 9/10 industry software will benefit from these specialised cards rather than the gaming 1080.

I would check with the software manufacturers what they recommend.

I would also look into the Xeon processor ranges as you are building something that will be used every day and you want it to last for years. In my experience Xeon processors require less cooling and maintenance over there life time compared to a mainstream processor.

In my work station I have the Xeon E5-1650 which is 6 core at 3.6 ghz. The same as your suggestion. It would be the more expensive route but in the long run may give you a more stable experience

Xenon was my other line. it is not out but will consider it.

With the E5-1650 cpu and msi Mobo it is cheaper then the 7820X build. So yes either 7820x of Xenon build is within budget.