And really, the difference between an Intel build and AMD is around $150 or so. It doesn't take being rich to get Intel, especially when you consider a PC costs, generally over $1K. What is 15% more for WAY more performance out of the CPU?
As far as Zen and Kaby Lake... If Zen performs on par with Haswell/Broadwell/Skylake (within a few %), you can bet your arse you are not going to be paying $200 for their top of the line Octo core like you are now. Performance is finally where the market wants it to be, which means that AMD will likely jack the prices up. For example, Intel's Octo is $1K now... I would bet money says AMD comes in around $400+ on their Octo+HT if it performs as they say. This undercuts its direct competition by HUNDREDS, is 'fair' in the market, and yields some profits for AMD. AMD should have a quad with HT (like i7) which should be cheaper.. I would expect that around $250 or so... If AMD comes in where the 8370 is now, I would be absolutely floored. And while for the short term that is great, I would rather they look further down the road by raking in some profits now and put it towards more R&D.
Your posts are tough to follow with all the punctuation missing and such...