Need help overclocking amd fx 4100

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

I would like to reach 5ghz or as close as possible but this is what i have.

Processor-AMD FX-4100 X4 3600MHZ 8MB 95W AM3+
Processor Cooler- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Graphics Card-XFX Radeon HD 6870 900M 2GB DDR5 PCIe
Motherboard-MSI 760GM-E51(FX) AMD 760 SOCKET
Case-Cooler Master Elite 430 Mid Tower ATX Case
RAM-VISIONTEK 8GB (2X4GB) PC3-10600 DDR3-1333MHZ
PSU-ULTRA LSP650 650W ATX POWER SUPPLY
Thanks for any help

 

[Aldakoopa]

Your motherboard will hold you back more than anything. It looks like it has 4 power phase and no VRM cooling. That is not good for achieving high overclocks.

Even if you did get as far as I did, you'd soon be held back by temps. I hit the temperature threshold with mine at ~4.8GHz (in my sig) with my Hyper 212+ and that was in the middle of winter with all my windows open and a fan blowing towards my computer while I was shivering trying to type in numbers into my BIOS.

Oh, and welcome to the forums!

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Its clocked at 4400 right now and my temps haven't moved from stock.

 

[Aldakoopa]

I didn't have much change in temps until after 4.6GHz, I got up that high with only a little Vcore but after that I really had to pump the voltage to it and that's where most of your heat will come from.

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

this is what i got so far... Stress test highest is 44c

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[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Your motherboard will hold you back more than anything. It looks like it has 4 power phase and no VRM cooling. That is not good for achieving high overclocks.

Even if you did get as far as I did, you'd soon be held back by temps. I hit the temperature threshold with mine at ~4.8GHz (in my sig) with my Hyper 212+ and that was in the middle of winter with all my windows open and a fan blowing towards my computer while I was shivering trying to type in numbers into my BIOS.

Oh, and welcome to the forums!

Thanks for the welcome just seen it

 

[Mandrake4565]

Idle temps mean nothing, Fx processors are in accurate below 40c when not under load. Download Prime 95, Hwmonitor "non pro" and Cpu-Z then open Hwmonitor and run prime 95 for 20 minutes. Then post screen shots of Hwmonitor and the following tabs in Cpu-Z, Cpu, Speed and memory.

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Idle temps mean nothing, Fx processors are in accurate below 40c when not under load. Download Prime 95, Hwmonitor "non pro" and Cpu-Z then open Hwmonitor and run prime 95 for 20 minutes. Then post screen shots of Hwmonitor and the following tabs in Cpu-Z, Cpu, Speed and memory.

Take screen shots while prime95 is still running after 20 mins or stop it after 20 mins and take screen shots?

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Here you go

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[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

So what do you think?

 

[Aldakoopa]

That board is getting farther than I thought it would... lol (Anybody else wondering when the VRMs will go "POP!"?)

Just curious, what is the ambient temperature, and what thermal paste are you using?

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Thanks... Its 78F in my room right now.. sweating lol... I just used the cheap cooler master paste that came with it for right now lol. I also only have 1 120mm cooler master fan in the front so trust me i'm just as surprised.

 

[Aldakoopa]

Wow. You're about where mine was at around 4.7GHz, that's when I needed like 1.46V Vcore. At 4.6GHz I only needed 1.36V, then I had to really start giving it volts. For 4.83GHz I was at 1.5, I was sticking to the max voltage of 1.55V and the max temp of 55 degrees C

You're at about 50C right now. Be careful. You might get a hundred more MHz out of it with a little more Vcore... but I really don't know what your VRMs are doing. Don't happen to have one of those laser thermometers, do you?

EDIT: I also don't know how hot VRMs can get or if there's a temp monitor on the motherboard that HWmonitor is showing. I never really paid any attention to that, only Vcore and CPU temps.

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Thanks and no I can't say I do have one lol

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Wow. You're about where mine was at around 4.7GHz, that's when I needed like 1.46V Vcore. At 4.6GHz I only needed 1.36V, then I had to really start giving it volts. For 4.83GHz I was at 1.5, I was sticking to the max voltage of 1.55V and the max temp of 55 degrees C

You're at about 50C right now. Be careful. You might get a hundred more MHz out of it with a little more Vcore... but I really don't know what your VRMs are doing. Don't happen to have one of those laser thermometers, do you?

EDIT: I also don't know how hot VRMs can get or if there's a temp monitor on the motherboard that HWmonitor is showing. I never really paid any attention to that, only Vcore and CPU temps.

Just checked i do have a laser temp lol and my vrms are at 48c

 

[Aldakoopa]

And that isn't that hot either.

Do you notice any multiplier drops while watching the CPU tab of CPUID while running prime95? (aka throttling)

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

No it stayed still the whole time

 

[Aldakoopa]

Ok, Try setting your FSB to 210 at your current settings and test to see if it's stable.

You'll want to leave prime95 running for a long time if you want to test for true stability, I usually leave it running overnight after I see that temps are ok and check it in the morning. to see if there's any errors.

 

[oSERIALoAPEISTo]

Ok i will let you know

 

[Aldakoopa]

Hmmm... maybe one of the VRMs did pop.