Why is the 1700+ still the king over the 2500-M Barton? Because the 1700+ will o/c from 1.4ghz to 2.2ghz without even increasing the voltage one point. The 2500-M, on the other hand, requires voltage to get any O/C, which results in hotter temps, higher fan speeds (for air only), and overall a louder, hotter system.
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1700+ Tbred STILL the King of O/C'rs
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who's been saying the 1700 is still king ? id say the mobile 2500 is king
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i wouldnt say that they are kings off overclocking anymore but they are far the best overclockers we have seen from AMD in years
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My 2500+ did 2866. Sure beats any 1700+ that I have ever seen.
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512K L2 plus 100-200MHz higher OCs reigns supreme in my court. Does your XP1700 run 11x200 at 1.45Vcore? Does your XP1700 run 13x200 at 1.9V on air? And, does your XP1700 benchmark better than a mobile Barton at the same speeds? Mine doesn't.
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i suppose, bang per buck (in this case, mhz overclock/unit of voltage increase ), the 1700+ realy was better. I overclocked mine 1Ghz, with 1.75v (stock was 1.5v). There are even some 1700+ that did better than me with same or even less voltage! I dont think there are ANY mobile bartons that show an increase of 1Ghz with a .25v increase, are there? Or to be fair, a .30v increase?
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1700 still the king?
Yes, it can go to 2200 with no voltage increase if you are VERY lucky. Mine took 1.75 to get that, and I supposedly had the best stepping.
My mobile barton can do 2200 at 1.45 volts. I can hit 2600 @ 1.75 volts and it still runs far cooler than my xp1700 did.
Yes, I think the 1700s are great and legendary chips, but now I see no way in which they can compare with a mobile barton.
Yes, it can go to 2200 with no voltage increase if you are VERY lucky. Mine took 1.75 to get that, and I supposedly had the best stepping.
My mobile barton can do 2200 at 1.45 volts. I can hit 2600 @ 1.75 volts and it still runs far cooler than my xp1700 did.
Yes, I think the 1700s are great and legendary chips, but now I see no way in which they can compare with a mobile barton.
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Gogeta_G3D said:
I most certainly agree with that. I remember when Newegg had those for $42 two years ago and today a used DLT3C Tbred-B brings at least $50 on Ebay.
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sQUiRLy said:
My 1700 does 11 x 231 @ 1.875Vcore on air. Good enough for you?
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Yes the 1700+ is still the king. My whole point is that the 2500-M are the next best thing to come out, but still pale in comparison to the great results you got out of a 1700+ with little or NO voltage increase. 1ghz with 0.2 volt increase, the 2500-M will not do. In fact I am seeing a lot of peeps have to increase their v up from 1.45 to 1.9, just to hit a 700-800 mhz increase. I for one, won't run my 2500-M at 1.9v on air!
That said, yes, the 2500-M will outperform the 1700+ because of the L2 cace, but will always be runner up in the o/c race which is measured by o/c results/vcore increase required.
That said, yes, the 2500-M will outperform the 1700+ because of the L2 cace, but will always be runner up in the o/c race which is measured by o/c results/vcore increase required.
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My 2500+ mobile is clipping right along at 2500Mhz.
If you're a numbers person, the mobile will dust the Tbred in benchies. But for overall overclockability, the Tbred will win out, merely 'cause you can overclock it farther.
I'd still take the mobile any day of the week, tyvm
If you're a numbers person, the mobile will dust the Tbred in benchies. But for overall overclockability, the Tbred will win out, merely 'cause you can overclock it farther.
I'd still take the mobile any day of the week, tyvm
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They are both excellent choices, reaching very high speeds at quite high voltages. In real-world usage, you probably wouldn't notice a difference between a 1700+ at 2.5GHz and a mobile Barton at 2.7GHz, let alone with each at the same speeds. There is no "king" of overclocking; it's all in the eye of the beholder.
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if you guys logic were true then the Intel 1.6a would be the king of intel chips for OCing, but in fact the EE series is the king, because of its massive cache and it loves voltages (good for the phase changers)
so i say the 2600-m is the king because its the only mobile barton ive seen @ 3200+mhz
so i say the 2600-m is the king because its the only mobile barton ive seen @ 3200+mhz
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