Asus Sabertooth 990FX 4100 MHz unstable

My system isn't quite stable at 4100MHz. (4.1GHz.)
I am debating whether or not I should turn up vcore further.
I have a custom built water cooler. I have a water block on the GPU as well as the cpu.
Idk which thing I should try for a further overclock. It became unstable in the middle of a video encoding job, so it wasn't even at max cpu use.
Basic layout of system, in my signature.

What Vcore are you currently at?

Ahhh
Let me see.

You've got plenty of room for more voltage so long as the temps stay in check.

I always forget I got one of the "good" FX-4100's. Mine is stable at stock voltage up to 4.2GHz all day long. Actually, for a few years now for that matter...

Stock cooler? Watch your temps...
Max: 62°C Package, 70°C Socket

ATMINSIDE said:

Stock cooler? Watch your temps...
Max: 62°C Package, 70°C Socket

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Custom water bra

That actually seems like a reasonable amount of vcore for that speed to me, but you do have quite a lot of headroom so why don't you bump it up and see how it does.

Is that 42 temp you are showing at idle? If so, my next question is are you sure your water cooling setup is functioning properly.

Oops.
Forgot to take that out of my signature.
I hope it's accurate now.
I do like the stock cooler of this cpu though, as it's much better then some of the FX coolers.
But ah, yeah, I am on water, with not one, but two water blocks. One on the cpu, one on the gpu.
Probably overkill for cooling the gpu, oh well.

Is that 42 temp you are showing at idle? If so, my next question is are you sure your water cooling setup is functioning properly.

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No.
I am running an encoding job. It's not 100% of the cpu, but it's using a decent amount.
I guess later, I'll mess with the vcore, and than see if I can get this stable a little higher.

Wait, I misread this thread title. I thought it was an FX-4100, and not 4100mhz. Heh...

What are the rest of your settings?
HT Link,
FSB
etc..

Oh wow, well in that case enjoy that amazing headroom on the temps!
Yeah, let's bump up the vcore just a bit and see if it is stable. If you are able to do the encode job again, that might tell you if it worked.

If I were you, I'd be running that CPU a LOT faster with that kind of cooling.

EDIT: WHOA! Nevermind

Aldakoopa said:

Wait, I misread this thread title. I thought it was an FX-4100, and not 4100mhz. Heh...

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That's okay no problem.
The lowest FX I have had so far is a 6300. I have an FX 8320.

rescuetoaster said:

Oh wow, well in that case enjoy that amazing headroom on the temps!
Yeah, let's bump up the vcore just a bit and see if it is stable. If you are able to do the encode job again, that might tell you if it worked.

If I were you, I'd be running that CPU a LOT faster with that kind of cooling.

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Been playing with it some. Saw a temp of 93c. Kind of scares me. But the bigger problem is, there is no listed temperature for my cpu.
Grrrrr.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskt...2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=&f11=&f12=
I've been trying to get it down now, turning down the vcore. I guess I had it a little too high.
Running Prime95 as I type this, and it's staying stable. But I am soon going to have to start worrying about my ram, as I believe it gets overclocked with the cpu.

Fievel, how about some CPU-z pics. You know, "CPU", "Memory" and "SPD" tabs. You know the drill I think.

Pics like this and not capture the whole screen so things are still visible.

This is what we need to see for sure and a real good starting point.

Normally during setup and testing we disable C1/E, C6, Cool N Quiet, APM, TurboCore and in windows performance manager itself we set to "performance" mode. ALSO if you have HPC in bios you would ENABLE it. That way there are not "other" settings messing with the overclocking process. Some of those settings are not available on all models of cpu but where in evidence we disable for setup of overclock process.

CPU Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


Memory Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


SPD Tab in CPUz from CPUID com


And this is screen capture of HWMonitor (free version) from CPUID com
HWMonitor has been scrolled enough and large enough to show Min/Max of Voltages and includes the CPU CORE TEMPS / "package" temps fully visible. Latest versions of HWMonitor show the CPU Core Temp as " a Package Temp" and is only shown as a single temp since there were never multple, individual core temp sensors anyway.

This capture is made of HWMonitor after it has been open and running on the desktop logging Min/Max temps and voltages while Prime 95 was running Blend Mode test on all cores for at least 20 mins and then the capture of HWMonitor was made and it shows the Min/Max temps and voltages before P95 Blend was started and while running P95 Blend mode and gives much greater insight into how the system is performing without guessing.



In order to attach screenshots of INDIVIDUAL images as suggested, first crop and capture the images with Snipping Tool found in Windows Accessories or equivalent. Then click on Go Advanced, a button at the bottom of every new post window. Then click on the little paperclip tool at the top of the Advanced post window when it opens. Clicking on the paperclip tool brings up the file browser/upload tool and the rest is fairly obvious.

Okay. Exactly what you asked, no more. If you need more, ask.




Temps are going all over.


The last one might be hard to read.

Your temps are way too high, if that is a custom loop something is wrong! You should check if the block is on correctly, the TIM application or if there is a restriction in the loop.

Mandrake4565 said:

Your temps are way too high, if that is a custom loop something is wrong!

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+10000000
That's WAY too high!

Full water loop specs, please.

ATMINSIDE said:

+10000000
That's WAY too high!

Full water loop specs, please.

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I tried...

...tried to annotate image to tell what seems most likely. Others might see it differently but we "know" something is pretty wrong.
RGone...ster.