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That isn't that part that people would be questioning M@rk...
With reference being 1000MHz base clocm on the 980ti and with overclocking + boost averaging (bell curve) 1475- 1525, they are in the ballpark.
your English is better than some native speakers I see post here.
EarthDog said:your English is better than some native speakers I see post here.
I just had no idea what you were refering to in the vsync thing.
.Way off topic...but I'd learn the verb tenses, yes. You are doing well for that kind of informal learning!
I did that math already.
If we are seeing the bell curve for Pascal around 2100MHz, then its the same at ~33%. If we are seeing the 2.5Ghz that is rumored, then it smokes it. So... it depends.
Hey guys, I saw a couple people talking about 14nm vs 16nm for these new cards. I want to clear up some MAJOR misunderstandings for the silicon transistor feature size.
First off, NEITHER of these GPUs will feature TRUE 14nm or 16nm transistors. Intel is THE ONLY company that has true 14nm feature size FETs. (source_1, source_2). These FETs are actually 20nm at feature size, but work in the 14nm/16nm description. Globalfoundries (creating the 14nm AMD Polaris) and TSMC (creating the 16nm Nvidia Pascal) can use these terms because their FETs perform roughly at 14nm quality but have a slightly larger footprint.
What does this mean to the users? Its marketing play all over again. All these GPUs should be considered 20nm FIN-FET. Since they are FIN-FETs rather than planar FETs, there are major benefits. The first noticable benefit is power. Reduced size, and using FIN-FET decreases voltage threshold, and decreases current leakage (means major power saving). Size reduction brings in more transistors, and its easier to place transistors where you need them. Since power is reduced, speed can be increased (as seen by the OCed 1080).
All in all, the new silicon shrink for GPUs have been needed for a long time. The benefits will be there. However, don't get confused by marketing! Its not true 14nm/16nm its more close to 20nm
Hey guys, I saw a couple people talking about 14nm vs 16nm for these new cards. I want to clear up some MAJOR misunderstandings for the silicon transistor feature size.
First off, NEITHER of these GPUs will feature TRUE 14nm or 16nm transistors. Intel is THE ONLY company that has true 14nm feature size FETs. (source_1, source_2). These FETs are actually 20nm at feature size, but work in the 14nm/16nm description. Globalfoundries (creating the 14nm AMD Polaris) and TSMC (creating the 16nm Nvidia Pascal) can use these terms because their FETs perform roughly at 14nm quality but have a slightly larger footprint.
What does this mean to the users? Its marketing play all over again. All these GPUs should be considered 20nm FIN-FET. Since they are FIN-FETs rather than planar FETs, there are major benefits. The first noticable benefit is power. Reduced size, and using FIN-FET decreases voltage threshold, and decreases current leakage (means major power saving). Size reduction brings in more transistors, and its easier to place transistors where you need them. Since power is reduced, speed can be increased (as seen by the OCed 1080).
All in all, the new silicon shrink for GPUs have been needed for a long time. The benefits will be there. However, don't get confused by marketing! Its not true 14nm/16nm its more close to 20nm
I heard the silicon days are coming to an end, interesting, What will they use for future CPUs (When the silicon die cannot get any smaller anymore), I know silicon will still be around for at least 5 years(Probably alot more).
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