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Gnufsh

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I'm looking to get an mp3 player, something I have zero experience with. It's primary use is going to be running. I run outside, sometimes in the rain, so something sturdy and flash-based is in order. I run linux, so it has to support that as well (preferably one that works just like a usb mass storage device). Since all my music is all on cd right now, I can rip it to mp3. I do prefer the ogg vorbis format, but it's not a deal breaker. What are your suggestions?
 
I've heard the iRiver players are good at this (i.e. plays ogg and works as storage drive as well.) Check newegg and read reviews perhaps?
 
ocminimus said:
I've heard the iRiver players are good at this (i.e. plays ogg and works as storage drive as well.) Check newegg and read reviews perhaps?
I spent a good deal of time reading reviews before posting this question. I looked at the iriver players, and several others. Some of the ones that looked better to me are the iriver T10:
http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/t10/T10-1GB.aspx
And the RCA Lyra 2217:
http://www.rcaaudiovideo.com/Cultur...h+Players&ProductID=RD2217&PrevPage=ModelList
 
I briefly had a little MP3 player made by Lexar, I apologize but I dont remember the model number (sold it after getting my iPod to a co-worker for his g/f, heh) anyways, it just used the Lexar USb Jump Drives to play music. It supported wma and mp3, dont know if it does OGG but I doubt it. Was small and durable, nothing fancy but really cheap (was $36 for player and I think $25 for the 512mb jumpdrive)

I don't think thats what you are looking for but figured it wouldnt hurt.
 
i would also check out the cowon iaudio u3, g2, and g3. they all play ogg. i like the u3 the best, but its also the most expensive (but you can get 2gb) and plays movies and such.

u3_zoom10.jpg

http://eng.iaudio.com/product/product_U3_feature.php
 
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after thinking about it, going with lame mp3 would (in my opinion) be a much safer bet. all players support mp3, only a small handful support ogg. since your starting from scratch, i would go with mp3. if you already had ogg files, then i would look for (obviously) just ogg players since you'd be kinda stuck. all the players i mentioned are still pretty nice though. i still think the u3 is awesome.
 
Those players actually look very nice. How well do you think they would hold up to abuse? What is the best way to take an mp3 player running? What about in the rain?
 
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i think any flash player will take its deal of abuse. there aren't many real world evaluations of the u3, since its pretty new , but cowon seems to have a pretty good following. heres a forum where people might be able to offer more advice on the cowon iaudio players http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/

in the rain, i think your best but would be in a ziplock bag or something like that (with a small hole for the cable).
 
I'm strongly considering the iaudio U2. I haven't quite figured out how to carry it with me while running (not sure how well it fits into a pocket).
 
did you see cnet's video review? good perspective, you can see how small it is. the review is pretty dated, though.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Cowon_iAudio_U2_1GB/4505-6490_7-31129769.html


have you looked at the mobiblu cube? its much smaller, but has half the battery life, uses a non-standard cable, and no ogg support. its still drag and drop though.
http://www.walmart.com/search/brows...00.4293868038&path=0:3944:133251:96469:164001

http://reviews.cnet.com/MobiBlu_DAH_1500i_1GB_Black/4505-6490_7-31473739.html
 
zip22 said:
did you see cnet's video review? good perspective, you can see how small it is. the review is pretty dated, though.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Cowon_iAudio_U2_1GB/4505-6490_7-31129769.html
I didn't (little difficulties with flash on 64-bit linux here). I just looked at the pictures, and that thing is tiny! Which i good.

have you looked at the mobiblu cube? its much smaller, but has half the battery life, uses a non-standard cable, and no ogg support. its still drag and drop though.
http://www.walmart.com/search/brows...00.4293868038&path=0:3944:133251:96469:164001

http://reviews.cnet.com/MobiBlu_DAH_1500i_1GB_Black/4505-6490_7-31473739.html
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I'll take a look, but half the battery life doesn't sound good. Plus, it looks like the U2 is small enough. I'm thinking about the 2G 1, which is about $15 more than the 2G ipod nano. What are the advantages of the ipod nano over the u2?
 
Well its going to be tough to use the nano in linux, but it is an ipod and so therefore the interface is second to none. I just love the clickwheel and everything about ipods. You aren't going to be able to play ogg,but mp3 will obviously work fine.
 
Gnufsh said:
I'll take a look, but half the battery life doesn't sound good. Plus, it looks like the U2 is small enough. I'm thinking about the 2G 1, which is about $15 more than the 2G ipod nano. What are the advantages of the ipod nano over the u2?

compared to the U2, the nano has a color screen and (arguably) a better user interface. the iaudio players only have file tree browsing, so you look through the files just how you put them on the player. if you have them organized into folders nicely, then i imagine it works out fine. with the ipod, you can search your music by artist, album, genre.

the nano, however, gets scratched up on the front and back pretty easy. you would probably want to get a case for it, or at least some type of skin. it also does not have FM radio or recording and would be a bit trickier to use with linux (you would have to do some tinkering http://pag.csail.mit.edu/~adonovan/hacks/ipod.html - not sure if this is the best way, just the only one i found with a quick search. i'm sure there are other guides, though).

i assume you were using neweggs prioce for the iaudio U2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...gle&srccode=cii_14110944&cpncode=07-3458566-2

you should also know that if you are a student or a teacher, or know a student or teacher that would be willing to orser for you, you can get the 2gb ipod nano for $179 through apples education discount.

so the iaudio has more features and will be easier to use in linux. the nano has a color screen, will be cheaper, but will be harder to use with linux.
 
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The student discount is nice, but I have no need for a color screen. I'll have to think about it. I really like the FM radio.

edit; The u3 isn't that much bigger or more expensive. Hey, it might be cool too. What about some sort of adapter to charge it in the car?
 
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Due to the recent complaints of the easily-scratched iPod Nanos, Apple now includeds slim cases in every Nano box. Just some food-for-thought if this makes your decision making process easier.

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I'm leaning toward the u3, but I'm worried about the built-in battery. How long will it last? Can I get it replaced a few years from now when it dies? That sort of thing.
 
you probably wont care about it in three years, but i'd say it could be changed, but it wouldnt be worth it
 
yeah, three years is the general number tossed around for li-ion built-in batteries before they start to hold noticeably less charge.

i have heard rumors of a cowon battery replacement service, but nothing certain (but i haven't donw much looking either. iaudiophile.net forum would be the best place to find that info). the ipod nano will have apples battery service ($65 including shipping) and probably a bunch of third party companies doing it for cheaper.

i agree that by the time the battery starts failing, you'll want something new and the money you would have spent on the replacement will be better spent on a new player.

one other thing to note about the U3 v the nano is service. apples service is excellent, cowons is not even close. i'm not saying cowons service would be bad, just not as nice as walking into an apple store and getting a replacement. or requesting service online and recieving a refurbished unit in the mail with instructions to mail back your old one in the pre-paid box (just some experiences i have heard on ilounge.com. not necessarily representative, but i have rarely heard any complaints at all).
 
Well, I got the iAudio u3, and so far I'm very happy with it. It sounds good, works great on Gentoo and the battery lasts really well. My only complaint is the headphones. They're not great and a little uncomfortable. I guess I'll have to look into getting some new ones. These would do double duty as general listening (like while studying, cleaning, etc) and while running/jogging/hiking (not all at the same time, of course).

What do you think of these?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...88406-3838450?n=507846&s=electronics&v=glance
They're Sony MDR-EX71SL Fontopia Headphones with Closed Type Design, in case the link doesn't work.
 
ex 71 are decent semi-canal phones

but imo spend the extra money and get shure e2c whihc are real canal phones

then you can start you way in the audiophile world bumb um bum

www.head-fi.org
 
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