New SATA III as boot or storage/game drive?

Niku-Sama · 09-25-11, 08:04 PM

what do you think would be more beneficial?

i'm going to buy computer parts i dont really need but i figure i would buy something i am going to need too, since rage is comming out soon and i only have about 80gigs of free space left on my 320 SATA II drive.

so yea make it a boot drive or a storage drive, no page file/VM or what ever else people call it on the drives.

specs are in sig, although a little close to 4.0Ghz and will be 16gigs of ram instead of 8gigs (the parts i dont need but hey its cheap now).

i do know in general that loading from one drive to the other will be faster than copying or running off of the one although not much considering no virtual memory

Knufire · 09-25-11, 10:07 PM

SATAII and SATA III make no difference in hard drives. They're not fast enough to take advantage of SATA III. Only SSD's will notice a real difference.

trents · 09-26-11, 12:17 AM

+1 with regard to Knufire's comment. The difference between Sata I, II and III is only in regard to a very, very short-lived burst rate transfer. As soon as the drive cache has shot its wad its all over. The only parameter that makes any noticeable difference in hard disk performance is increasing the spindle rpm, say from 5400 to 7200 or from 7200 to 10,000.

Niku-Sama · 09-27-11, 06:44 PM

another thought, raid?

a pair of recertified drives would cost less than regular. just thinking to get more umpf out of this thing
severe testing before i would raid and i would be backing it up on a regular basis (bunch of left over 120gig drives)

ScrewySqrl · 09-28-11, 10:47 AM

mechanical hard drives are CHEAPCHEAPCHEAP right now, why risk a refurb?

brand new Seagate 1 TB SATA III drive: $49.99 on the 'egg right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148697

I know, no real difference, but its $5 cheaper than the SATA II drive.

Throw in an inexpensive SSD, after rebate its $1/GB!:
OCZ Vertex Plus 60 GB, $68.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227738
not the fastest, but still much faster than any mechanical drive.

Use the 60 GB as a boot drive and the 1 TB as your data drive. Perhaps keep the 320, or make it a portable drive.

PanteraGSTK · 09-28-11, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrewySqrl

mechanical hard drives are CHEAPCHEAPCHEAP right now, why risk a refurb?

brand new Seagate 1 TB SATA III drive: $49.99 on the 'egg right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148697

I know, no real difference, but its $5 cheaper than the SATA II drive.

Throw in an inexpensive SSD, after rebate its $1/GB!:
OCZ Vertex Plus 60 GB, $68.99 w/ $10 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227738
not the fastest, but still much faster than any mechanical drive.

Use the 60 GB as a boot drive and the 1 TB as your data drive. Perhaps keep the 320, or make it a portable drive.

This is good advice. Mechanical drives for storage, SSD for boot and/or cache drives.

09-25-11, 08:04 PM	Thread Starter #1
Niku-Sama Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deadford OR	New SATA III as boot or storage/game drive? what do you think would be more beneficial? i'm going to buy computer parts i dont really need but i figure i would buy something i am going to need too, since rage is comming out soon and i only have about 80gigs of free space left on my 320 SATA II drive. so yea make it a boot drive or a storage drive, no page file/VM or what ever else people call it on the drives. specs are in sig, although a little close to 4.0Ghz and will be 16gigs of ram instead of 8gigs (the parts i dont need but hey its cheap now). i do know in general that loading from one drive to the other will be faster than copying or running off of the one although not much considering no virtual memory __________________ ₪ Core 2 Duo P7350 (3 MB L2) @2.0Ghz ₪ 14.1" Brightview Infinity Display ₪\|₪ Phenom II "X4 20 BE" @ 3.45Ghz ₪ Sythe Yasa 6 Pipe Cooler ₪ ₪ 4Gig Qimonda HYB18T DDR800 CAS 2.5 ₪ Intel WiFi Link 5100 A/G/N ₪\|₪ Biostar TA890FXE ₪ 8Gig G.SKILL Ripjaws 9-9-9-24 685Mhz ₪ ₪ Intel X4500 MHD w/HDMI ₪ 320Gig WD Scorpio Blue SATA II ₪\|₪ Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 860/1200 ₪ Seagate 320Gig 7200.11 ₪ ₪ HP LightScribe 8X R/RW/DL ₪ Integrated WebCam & Remote Control ₪\|₪ OCZ Stealth X Stream 600 ₪ LG LightScribe DVD Burner ₪
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09-25-11, 10:07 PM	#2
Knufire Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bloomfield Hills, MI	SATAII and SATA III make no difference in hard drives. They're not fast enough to take advantage of SATA III. Only SSD's will notice a real difference. __________________ i7-920 3.8 Ghz \| Venomous-X w/ Panaflo HS \| Sapphire Vapor-X 4890 EVGA X58 SLI LE \| 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 \| 500GB Samsung OEM \| Rosewill 850w \| Thermaltake Armor Series \| OCZ Vertex 2 60GB Secondary Rig: CM Elite 430 \| A8-3870K stock \| Radeon HD 6670 \| 500GB WD Caviar Blue \| 4GB G.SKILL DDR3-1333 \| ASUS A55 HEATWARE
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09-26-11, 12:17 AM	#3
trents Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Centralia, WA	+1 with regard to Knufire's comment. The difference between Sata I, II and III is only in regard to a very, very short-lived burst rate transfer. As soon as the drive cache has shot its wad its all over. The only parameter that makes any noticeable difference in hard disk performance is increasing the spindle rpm, say from 5400 to 7200 or from 7200 to 10,000. __________________ Custom built desktop #1: Phenom II X4 960T Zosma unlocked to 6 cores/4.0 ghz/Noctua D14 CPU cooler/GSkill Ripjaws 1600 2x4gb/Asus M5A97 motherboard/Coolermaster HAF 912/case/OCZ 750W PSU/Nvidia 8800 GTS 640mb GPU/WD Caviar Black 500 GB hard drive Custom built desktop #2: PII X4 955 4.1 ghz, Asus M5A97 motherboard, Coolermaster Hyper 212 plus, Nvidia Geforce 220 video card, Enermax 465W PSU, 2x2gb PNY 1600 ram. Toshiba SatelliteL775 laptop/17.3" display, AMD 3400M APU, 8 gb of 1333 Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me". John 14:6
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09-27-11, 06:44 PM	Thread Starter #4
Niku-Sama Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Deadford OR	another thought, raid? a pair of recertified drives would cost less than regular. just thinking to get more umpf out of this thing severe testing before i would raid and i would be backing it up on a regular basis (bunch of left over 120gig drives) __________________ ₪ Core 2 Duo P7350 (3 MB L2) @2.0Ghz ₪ 14.1" Brightview Infinity Display ₪\|₪ Phenom II "X4 20 BE" @ 3.45Ghz ₪ Sythe Yasa 6 Pipe Cooler ₪ ₪ 4Gig Qimonda HYB18T DDR800 CAS 2.5 ₪ Intel WiFi Link 5100 A/G/N ₪\|₪ Biostar TA890FXE ₪ 8Gig G.SKILL Ripjaws 9-9-9-24 685Mhz ₪ ₪ Intel X4500 MHD w/HDMI ₪ 320Gig WD Scorpio Blue SATA II ₪\|₪ Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 860/1200 ₪ Seagate 320Gig 7200.11 ₪ ₪ HP LightScribe 8X R/RW/DL ₪ Integrated WebCam & Remote Control ₪\|₪ OCZ Stealth X Stream 600 ₪ LG LightScribe DVD Burner ₪
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09-28-11, 10:47 AM	#5
ScrewySqrl Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: NC	mechanical hard drives are CHEAPCHEAPCHEAP right now, why risk a refurb? brand new Seagate 1 TB SATA III drive: $49.99 on the 'egg right now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148697 I know, no real difference, but its $5 cheaper than the SATA II drive. Throw in an inexpensive SSD, after rebate its $1/GB!: OCZ Vertex Plus 60 GB, $68.99 w/ $10 MIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227738 not the fastest, but still much faster than any mechanical drive. Use the 60 GB as a boot drive and the 1 TB as your data drive. Perhaps keep the 320, or make it a portable drive. __________________ Main PC:I5-2400, ASRock H61-VS, Mushkin 4 GB 1333, HD 6850, 2x Seagate 500 GB HDD, Corsair 430W, Rosewill R102 case, Acer 1680x1050 monitor. "Salvage" PC being used for HTPC: AMD Phenom 9650, Biostar MCP6PB M2+, 4 GB DDR2-800, Ultra 500W, Diamond HD4850 DDR3 512MB, Thermaltake TR1-R 92mm cooler, 120GB SATA 1 HDD, 16x DVD-Rom (AOpen), 8x DVD RW (off a Gateway) Ancient Laptop: HP dv8000t: AMD Turion 64 1.8Ghz, 1.25 GB RAM, 80 GB 5400 rpm HDD, Radeon X200M, 17" 1440x900 screen.Weaker than a netbook, but great for in-bed browsing because its so low heat. A strange green man lying in a swamp handing out Lightsabers is no basis for a system of Government
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