Shopping for a card

RockerGuy · Dec 24, 2012

Hi guys,

I'm shopping for a card. I presently have an old Asus P5K motherboard. Looking to just update this computer once before I ditch it.

I've been looking at the boxing day flyer and saw some sweet looking cards at a decent price, but unfortunately tech support told me my board will not support PCIe 3.0. I am disappointed.

Can someone let me know if these cards will fit on my mobo??

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4501126&csid=_61

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=052890

http://ca.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4360#dl

Here is a flyer I'm looking at:
http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingDay2012/2.php

Thanks alot, I appreciate the feedback :salute:

Knufire · Dec 24, 2012

PCIe is all backwards compatible, nothing to worry about.

Budget for the card? The best in that range is the 650Ti, but it might be a tad more expensive than the cards you're looking at.

RockerGuy · Dec 24, 2012

Knufire said:
PCIe is all backwards compatible, nothing to worry about.

Budget for the card? The best in that range is the 650Ti, but it might be a tad more expensive than the cards you're looking at.

My eyes are on this card:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4501126&csid=_61

I just spoke to tech support for EVGA and he told me it might not be compatible. He said he had an experience where it wasn't compatible.

Did he do something wrong? Because I'm doing research & it say's it should be backwards compatible.

My budget is $100-$200

Thx

Knufire · Dec 24, 2012

Up to $200, I'd definitely go for this: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5400619&CatId=7387

RockerGuy · Dec 24, 2012

Knufire said:
Up to $200, I'd definitely go for this: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5400619&CatId=7387

The EVGA gtx 650 has a higher speed plus it is much cheaper.

Wouldn't my PCIe 1.0 be bottlenecked by such high performing cards? :shrug:

Knufire · Dec 24, 2012

Higher what speed?

PCIe 1.0 x16 shouldn't be a horrendous bottleneck, maybe a few %.

RockerGuy · Dec 24, 2012

Knufire said:
Higher what speed?

PCIe 1.0 x16 shouldn't be a horrendous bottleneck, maybe a few %.

Gtx 650
core= 1.2Ghz
Memory=5GHz

Knufire · Dec 25, 2012

You can't use those specs to directly compare GPUs.

1. GPUs operate on core count. Like how your CPU has 4 cores? Your GPU might have 384 cores (like the GTX650). They operate massively parallel instead of massively serial, so clock speed matters less.

2. They don't use the same core. Just like a Phenom II and a Intel Ivy Bridge at the same clock speed are not equal CPUs, same with GPUs. The GTX650, GTX650Ti, and 7850 all use chips with different architectures.

The only reliable way to figure out the performance of a GPU is to find a good review from a reputable site that benchmarks the card in various video games.

(P.S. the memory is not running at 5GHz, it has a bandwidth of 5gbps).

wingman99 · Dec 25, 2012

I would purchase the XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition.

GTX 650 vs HD 7850 http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/5.html

RockerGuy · Dec 25, 2012

I'll keep those in mind, thanks guys

RockerGuy · Dec 26, 2012

I just bought this card and tried installing it on my system. It doesn't work
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=053205

Needless to say I am disappointed. I hope they can give me a refund

wingman99 · Dec 26, 2012

Did you try pulling the card out and reinstalling it, also did you plug in the power cable?

RockerGuy · Dec 27, 2012

wingman99 said:
Did you try pulling the card out and reinstalling it, also did you plug in the power cable?

I tried reinstalling several times, even tried different slot?

You have to connect the power cable??

How do u do that?

RockerGuy · Dec 27, 2012

wingman99 said:
Did you try pulling the card out and reinstalling it, also did you plug in the power cable?

You're my personal Jesus Christ & saviour

.

I plugged in the power cord and bam! It worked. U saved me a trip back to the store and keeping a sweet card :clap:

Now let me get back to updating the drivers

Thanks for those who helped!

Happy new year :bday:

NiteSmoker17 · Dec 27, 2012

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

this link is a great one showing just how far ahead out Pcie bus bandwidth is to our current generations of cards.

wingman99 · Dec 27, 2012

RockerGuy said:
You're my personal Jesus Christ & saviour .

I plugged in the power cord and bam! It worked. U saved me a trip back to the store and keeping a sweet card

Now let me get back to updating the drivers

Thanks for those who helped!

Happy new year

Glad I could help, how do you like your new card?

RockerGuy · Dec 27, 2012

wingman99 said:
Glad I could help, how do you like your new card?

Pretty sweet!

I haven't had the chance to update the drivers yet, so only one monitor is displaying. The site is pretty slow, I'm dwnld'ing @ 25mb/s :facepalm:

.

I didn't invest in a really good card because:
-The one I wanted was sold out

-I wasn't 100% sure if it would fit my old mobo
-I was scared of bottleneck on my pcie 1.0

But I learn something new, nvidia uses a power supply, lol. Always had ATI

RockerGuy · Dec 27, 2012

NiteSmoker17 said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/23.html

this link is a great one showing just how far ahead out Pcie bus bandwidth is to our current generations of cards.

That was a good read. I wish I had read that before I made a decision.
Ooo well

wingman99 · Dec 27, 2012

RockerGuy said:
I haven't had the chance to update the drivers yet, so only one monitor is displaying

What kind of monitors do you have? The video card only supports 1 D-SUB and 2 DVI

RockerGuy · Dec 27, 2012

wingman99 said:
What kind of monitors do you have? The video card only supports 1 D-SUB and 2 DVI

I've got one DVI & another analog. They are working now.

The weird thing is I played Black ops 2 and didn't notice an improvement in FPS. I don't see a remarkable difference in performance. My old card is in my sig.

I do notice a shorter loading time tho. I thought that was only affected by the processor? :shrug:

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