Creating a New Machine with Watercooling - 1st Watercooling Build

[JacobGardiner-M]

Hello,

I have planned purchasing the following equipment for a ESXi/High spec machine build. Will I need any other cabling with this configuration? Will I need any further tubing to be able to watercool two Graphics cards, Motherboard and a CPU? Also will the SLI Bridge that comes with the Motherboard be compatiable with a Two way SLI configuration?

UPS - Will the UPS Need to be a higher voltage as i will be running a 1250W power supply and also may be running a router on the UPS also?

What would be the best configuration for the watercooling? Will I need two loops or one loop? Will I need any additional fans with the case? Does anyone have any Guides or posts that can assist with cable management? I want to make this machine as perfect as possible.

Intel Core i7-3960X 3.30GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail £649.99 (£779.99)
OCZ Vertex 4 512GB 2.5" SATA-3 Solid State Hard Drive (VTX4-25SAT3-512G) £466.66(£559.99)
OcUK Tech Lab H2O GTX 680 2048MB GDDR5 Nickel Acetal [N680GTX-PM2D2GD5] £441.65 (£529.98) £883.30 (£1,059.96)
OcUK Tech Lab - Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Watercooled with EK Full Cover Waterblocks £399.99 (£479.99)
G.Skill TridentX 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit (F3-2400C10Q-32GTX) £299.99(£359.99) £599.98 (£719.98)
OcUK Tech Lab - V12 Watercooled Case - Coolermaster HAF X £262.50(£315.00)
Western Digital VelociRaptor 1TB 10000RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD1000DHTZ) £216.66 (£259.99) £433.32(£519.98)
OCZ ZX Series 1250W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £137.49(£164.99)
APC Back-UPS ES 700VA 230V UPS (BE700G-UK) £67.49(£80.99)
LG BH10LS38 10x BluRay-RW / 16 x DVD±RW Lightscribe Drive - Black (Retail) £66.65(£79.98) )
Lamptron FC Touch Fan Controller - Black £41.66(£49.99)
OcUK Professional 2.5" to 3.5" SSD Adaptor Plate - Black £4.16(£4.99)
OcUK Professional Cat6 RJ45 5m Network Cable - Grey (B6-505) £3.32(£3.98)
EK PSC Compression Fitting 10mm 3/8" - G1/4 - Nickel £2.29(£2.75) £9.16(£11.00)
OcUK Value SATA-II 45cm Red Data Cable (NLRB-302LOCK) £2.16(£2.59) £6.48(£7.77)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-393-IN - CPU
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-109-OC&groupid=701&catid=2104&subcat= - GPU x 2
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-001-AS -Watercooled Motherboard
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-083-GS - RAM x2
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-036-OE - Case
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-385-WD - HDD's x 2
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-054-OC - Power Supply
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=UP-017-AP - UPS
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-107-LG - BluRay Drive
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BB-004-LP - Fan Controller
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-002-OP - 2.5" to 3.5" Bay
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-002-OE - Ethernet Cable
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-123-EK - Watercooling Compression Fittings x 6
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CB-035-OK - SATA Cables x 3

Thanks In advance and please let me know If you have any further queries/suggestions that may help towards the build. If I have anything else that i need to ask I will open a further reply to this post.

Kind regards

Jacob

 

[Conumdrum]

I don't see radiators fans or pumps. Liquid and a biocide?


We have some really good stickies at the top of this forum, maybe you should start there.

 

[JacobGardiner-M]

Creating a machine

Hello,

The case has the following watercooling Included -

- Dimensions: 230 x 550 x 590mm ( W x H x D)
- Motherboard Compability: Micro- ATX, ATX and E-ATX
- 6 x 5.25" Drive Bays
- 5 x 3.5" Drive Bays
- I/O Panel: USB3.0 x 2, USB2.0, Audio x 2, e-SATA x 1, FireWire x1
- Cooling (Front): 230 x 30 mm red LED fan x1
- Cooling (Top): 200 x 30mm fans x 2 (1 included)
- Cooling (Side): 200 x 30mm fan x 1
- Cooling (Rear): 140 x 25mm fan x 1
- VGA Fan Duct: 120 x 25mm fan x 1 (not included)
- VGA Holder: 80 x 15mm fan x 1 (not included)
- PCI Slots: 9
- Bottom mounted PSU

EK-KIT H3O 360 LTX water cooling kit includes following items:

- EK-Supreme LT - UNI (universal CPU block based on EK-Supreme LTX)
- EK-Backplate CPU Universal
- EK-CoolStream RAD XT 360
- EK-FAN Silent 120-1600 RPM (3 pcs)
- EK-DCP 2.2 Pump
- EK-Reservoir Combo DCP 2.2
- EK-DCP PUMP mounting plate KIT
- TUBE Masterkleer 12,7/9,5 CLEAR (2 meters)
- EK-PSC Fitting 10mm - G1/4 Nickel (6 pcs)
- EK-Ekoolant UV Blue (concentrate 100ml)
- TIM Gelid GC-Xtreme (EKWB 2g)

Kind regards

Thanks In advance,

Jacob

 

[bluezero5]

Looking like you are going towards the high end, which is good.
but on that note... you might want better water cooling gear.

EK stuff is not bad, it is up there, but it doesn't get any top ranks..

and for coolant.. I will totally recommend distill water, nothing beats it until you need to go sub-zero. anything else, is just gonna add unnecessary chemicals to the loop. You just need 2 drops of 5% CuSO4, and maybe a Silver Kill Coil.

then take a look at the thread about fans.
your fans shows no brand, so I cannot judge them.
but fan choice.. will be a pretty major factor in Water cooling.. why not get the best fan for just a few bucks more.. when u are spending that much already.

just saying.

 

[Conumdrum]

Okay, not enough radiator in the case, you want another 120x2 minimum as rad because you also cooling the mobo. Worried about the 2.2 pump, not that good considering your also cooling the mobo, lots of flow restiction.

Do you know your heatload and radiator/fans needed to dissipate that amount of heat? You need to.

Cheap hose, will cloud in time.

You want to use that coolant? Okay, possible clogged blocks and major 100% teardowns are possible.

 

[bluezero5]

and get more compression fittings.

each component you need 2.

pump/res/radiator/blocks... that alone is 8.

you can also consider some instand disconnects for your GPU block.
this way when u upgrade your GPU later, you don't need to break your water loop majorly just to get a new block in.

Get a better pump.. and use 1/2 ID tubes. you will get better flow.
I will suppose when u are buying a 3930X, you will be clocking it with at least 1.45Vs
and with that, you want to keep the flow rate good.

 

[xander89]

Okay, not enough radiator in the case, you want another 120x2 minimum as rad because you also cooling the mobo. Worried about the 2.2 pump, not that good considering your also cooling the mobo, lots of flow restiction.

Do you know your heatload and radiator/fans needed to dissipate that amount of heat? You need to.

Cheap hose, will cloud in time.

You want to use that coolant? Okay, possible clogged blocks and major 100% teardowns are possible.

+ 1 my hose has already clouded a little. Better hosing is always nice dont get premix, ive been warned and now have seen enough evidence to steer clear. If you want to have coloured water do it yourself and use mayhem dye. Just be aware it will stain/ require more maintenance. Couple the dye it with silver kill coil and distilled water and you shouldn't run into too many problems.

also in terms of a kit i cant speak for the Ek one. I went with the XSPC one ( here). Although its a cheap pump rez combo at least its a nice big rez/ the pump is powerful. if a little cheap. I know for a fact that my kit will handle a CPU and GPU block + 360 rad and 240 rad. But that would probs be its limit.

But if you can afford to go custom get a good DDC or L5 and nice size rez. Always best. but if you are constrained by money, go with the XSPC kit about the same price too.

 

[JacobGardiner-M]

Creating a machine

Hello,

Thanks for all your feedback. Would you be able to provide a full watercooling solution for the spec's that I have specified? As I will need to be able to set up watercooling for Two GPU's, a CPU and Motherboard. That set may be able to handle all of that but I'm not 100% sure, I assume I will also need two radiators?

Kind regards

Jacob

 

[Conumdrum]

You have to start in the stickies and learn all about this. We can't just give you a parts list, you get it all home and ruin more than a few parts like the PSU, Mobo, pump etc since you don't understand it.

We'll guide you through the process, but untimately you need to learn and do this on your own.

Most spend at least a week or more before even understanding many factors you need to understand.

So, best of luck as you learn, we should be hearing back from you in a week or so after you spend a few days reading and reading and understanding.

A good post I made a few years ago. Consider the post written for you.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6489396&postcount=3

 

[xander89]

Hello,

Thanks for all your feedback. Would you be able to provide a full watercooling solution for the spec's that I have specified? As I will need to be able to set up watercooling for Two GPU's, a CPU and Motherboard. That set may be able to handle all of that but I'm not 100% sure, I assume I will also need two radiators?

Kind regards

Jacob

mate read the sickies. if you cant put together a build yourself/ dont know what will go with what then you wont be ready to do a WC build. Now i was a victim of the same thing when i started, asking people to essentially list me the parts i needed.

That is not the way to go about it. People will get frustrated very quickly. We are here to help, but not just give you what we think you need and send you on your way. In the end it will not be to your benefit. Go and read through the stickys properly, get an idea of what you need then come back and say i think it need the following...... Make sure everything matches up in terms of sizes ( piping and barbs/comp fittings) and then people will give you advice on if you need a bit more rad, a different block, a different brand of pump etc. But you need to know what you need first. Good luck bro!

 

[xander89]

You have to start in the stickies and learn all about this. We can't just give you a parts list, you get it all home and ruin more than a few parts like the PSU, Mobo, pump etc since you don't understand it.

We'll guide you through the process, but untimately you need to learn and do this on your own.

Most spend at least a week or more before even understanding many factors you need to understand.

So, best of luck as you learn, we should be hearing back from you in a week or so after you spend a few days reading and reading and understanding.

A good post I made a few years ago. Consider the post written for you.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6489396&postcount=3

dam u beat me too it , I've only been posting properly on the WC section for a couple of months and i already feel like a broken record, cant imagine how you golden oldies feel, Maybe something like this?

 

[bluezero5]

my rule is basically 240 + n x 120 rad where n is the number of GPUs.

now you have CPU and 2 GPUs.. so I say you need a total of 2 x 240.

koolance 370 is a nice CPU block, and it is compatible with LGA2011
as for Rads, the best one if you have good enough fans, I will say.. black ice rads.

 

[Conumdrum]

Yep.

 

[Conumdrum]

my rule is basically 240 + n x 120 rad where n is the number of GPUs.

now you have CPU and 2 GPUs.. so I say you need a total of 2 x 240.

koolance 370 is a nice CPU block, and it is compatible with LGA2011
as for Rads, the best one if you have good enough fans, I will say.. black ice rads.

Which Black Ice rads? Does he want a quiet or loud rig? Black Ice makes a TON of different rads.

Just 120x4? He want two GPUs, mobo, and CPU.

You have a Koolance 370? If so I see why you keep suggesting it even though there are many other good blocks out there.

Suggesting parts that he has no clue about isn't going to help one bit. It's all gibberish right now.

Slow down cowboy, you havn't been on the range long enough to run the herd.

 

[xander89]

Which Black Ice rads? Does he want a quiet or loud rig? Black Ice makes a TON of different rads.

Just 120x4? He want two GPUs, mobo, and CPU.

You have a Koolance 370? If so I see why you keep suggesting it even though there are many other good blocks out there.

Suggesting parts that he has no clue about isn't going to help one bit. It's all gibberish right now.

Slow down cowboy, you havn't been on the range long enough to run the herd.

+ 1 we aint being mean to him by not suggesting parts. Call it tough love it will be for his own benefit. Dont get me wrong i was exactly the same when i started, hell even till a few months ago. But now i really understand where people like conumdrum are coming from. They get posts like this every day. These guys have taken the time to write the sticky's and have put a tone of effort so they dont end up repeating themselves. Listen to them, their words are pretty much Law here. Follow them and it will all be fine

I dont know too much about WC, but enough to point at where someone has gone wrong. But aslong as you read the sticky you will know as much as i do. All my info is second hand info from people like conumdrum

 

[bluezero5]

^^^ I research my own, and I don't agree with a few things the mainstream says.

just cause someone been doing it for a while, doesn't really mean they are right.
I have got people who claims to be vets telling me things that aint true a few times already here.. so .. I would encourarge everyone to do their own research 'on top' of the information given here..

 

[xander89]

The stickys here are as good as on any other forum. No1 here has a connection to specific companies, and 99% advice will be unbiased and based on feedback and experience from all members on the forum. Please tell some of the things you have been told that has been wrong?!?

Please inform me where you get your " non mainstream " info from? I'd be thrilled to know.

Also no1 is saying only look at the stickys on this forum. They are just a very good place to start. And infact we are trying to encourage him to do as much reading as possible. Not just from here but elsewhere. What we are telling him is not to just jump the gun and ask for everyone else to do the work for him. The reason we are pointing him towards the stickys is because it's the first port of call and we would only be repeating what is said there....

 

[bluezero5]

Your guy there is alright, I wasn't saying he's wrong or anything.

I always just stop talking to anyone when they starts being arrogant though, as I dont think he's helping the forum by thinking he's the best.

bits I been told wrong here, includes fan info, Vcore load, and bits and pieces, but rather than saying people are wrong, I should actually just say, 'we disagree'. that's a better way to say it.

My point was, it is important to do your own research work, opinions here are great most of the time, but they are just from people on the internet, which makes it very subjective and quite oftenly misleading. So actually more important to read, research, analysis, conclude before anything...

same attitude should be adopted to everything else in life too.
that's all.

 

[Conumdrum]

I'll hopefully help the guy with years of guiding people and building rigs and writing stickies and other stuff.

You do what you feel is best.

Sorry you got wrong info, but it's the internet. Who ya gonna blame? Glad it's not a job eh?

 

[bluezero5]

^^^ haha yeah.

by the way Conumdrum, I read some stickies u wrote previously, very very impressively written.