General instability above 3400mhz

[kyppki]

Hello everyone I’m having a consistent issue and was wondering if anyone could help me nail down exactly which component is causing it.

I’m running a 3700x on a ASUS TUF Gaming x570 with 3200mhz 14-14-14-34 F4-3200C14D-16GTZR.

Overclocking the ram is no problem under 3400mhz, I’m in the middle of overclocking and am currently running 3400mhz 14-13-12-27 stable. However, no matter what timings I set I seem to get instability above 3400mhz. For example, 3600mhz 16-20-20-40 at 1.45v(1t, no powerdown, no geardown) can post and boots but throws errors on tests. Would I be correct in assuming that this is most likely an issue with the 3700x having that instability rather than the RAM itself?

 

[EarthDog]

I'd venture it is the settings, not the CPU or RAM. They are typically good to 3600/3733 or a lot more when not running 1:1.

Tryin adding a bit more SOC voltage and see if that helps.

You are on the latest BIOS and the sticks are in the proper slots, correct?

 

[kyppki]

I'd venture it is the settings, not the CPU or RAM. They are typically good to 3600/3733 or a lot more when not running 1:1.

Tryin adding a bit more SOC voltage and see if that helps.

You are on the latest BIOS and the sticks are in the proper slots, correct?

Latest Bios and a2/b2 as per the manual. I’m at 1.1v SOC but I can try bumping it up, I’ve been following the github memory guide and it said that above 1.1v doesn’t help a lot, but I’ll give it a shot.

 

[EarthDog]

With what you have, it likely won't... but worth a try. Be sure the RAM voltage is actually getting 1.35V. If it isn't consider raising that a smidge if you haven't already.

 

[kyppki]

With what you have, it likely won't... but worth a try. Be sure the RAM voltage is actually getting 1.35V. If it isn't consider raising that a smidge if you haven't already.

Ok so I definitely couldn’t get 3600mhz no matter what and I think it’s something specifically about that frequency now. Because I always hit the same errors on the same test doing 3600mhz 16-20-20-40 1.45v and now I’m testing 3733mhz at 16-16-16-36 1.35v(1t, no geardown, no power down) and it’s completely fine. It won’t even post at 3600mhz 16-20-20-40 1.35v.

If anyone has any hypothesis’s on why that is happening I’d really like to hear it because I’ve never seen this happen before.

 

[EarthDog]

Try running at 3733 and if it doesn't work, decouple it and try again.

 

[kyppki]

Try running at 3733 and if it doesn't work, decouple it and try again.

It is running at 3733 and that’s what I don’t get.

It’s got tighter timings at a higher frequency with less voltage and it’s stable when at looser timings with a lower frequency and more power it wouldn’t even post.

 

[EarthDog]

I mean, in the past we've seen FSB holes where it doesn't work at a specific FSB, but will past that value.

I cannot explain why... but... try and run 3733 @ 1:1 instead.