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Ba!nesy

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Hey guys, It's been a while since I've been on here.
I'm going to be building a new comp, I picked out parts for my last one, but My cousin built it for me, Now i'm hoping to build it myself but once again I need some help/input from people who know their stuff.
I'll post links and keep in mind I'm from Australia, so prices will be different to where most of you are from, but this is what we have to pay unfortunately.
My goal is to build a midrange computer for gaming and possibly some video editing. and some GIMPing.

Case:
Thermaltake Black Commander MS-III
$65
http://www.centrecom.com.au/thermaltake-black-commander-ms-iii-mid-tower-chassis-usb3

PSU:
Cooler Master 600W G Series PSU 80+ Bronze
$59
http://www.centrecom.com.au/cooler-master-600w-g-series-psu-80-bronze

Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-H87M-D3H
$110
http://www.centrecom.com.au/gigabyte-ga-h87m-d3h-intel-mainboard-lga-1150

CPU:
Core i5 4670
$260
http://www.centrecom.com.au/intel-c...hz-lga-1150-bx80646i54670-quad-core-processor

Ram: (one of two options, but am open to suggestions)
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL10 LP Vengeance
$185 (on special atm, don't know what price will be when it comes off.)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-16gb-2x8gb-ddr3-1600mhz-cl10-lp-vengeance-3

16GB G-Skill (F3-1600C9D-16GSR)
$186
http://www.centrecom.com.au/16gb-g-skill-f3-1600c9d-16gsr-ddr3-dual-channel-sniper-ram

SSD:
Samsung 840 EVO Series 120GB
$107 (prices go up and down every so often though.)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/samsung-840-evo-series-120gb-ssd

Graphics Card:
GTX 760 OC
$309
http://www.centrecom.com.au/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-oc-n760oc-2gd

Total:
$1095 AUD

Tower, not really fussed about, it looks good, has usb ports in the front, (although im not sure if it comes with a front fan.)
PSU, I was urged by a friend to not buy a case with a built in PSU, and I've read reviews on this PSU and they seem mostly good, 3 bad ones, one being that he didn't get money for a cashback promotion. (is 80+ Bronze still a good PSU?
SSD, Been looking at that for a while now, but held off till I bought a new comp. Samsung just seem like they'd be reliable to me, there's also similar Kingston SSDs for a similar price from this company.
CPU, I have a i5 760, and it's been overheating when I play some games such as Skyrim, and couldn't go more than 5 mins when playing Rise Of The Triad (does anyone know if this CPU is prone to overheating?) I don't plan on overclocking so will a stock CPU cooler be okay? even though the i5 760 was reaching 80 degrees celcius on a 30 degree celcius plus day (summer time, we are in winter atm and idle temps for my 760 is around 30 degrees celcius)
This CPU seems like its an upgrade while not going up a step to a i7 which would cost $100 more.
Motherboard, good thing I looked up someone building a comp here with that motherboard, went to a link in his thread and found that this motherboard had compatibility issues with the OCZ Vertex 2 SSD, which I plan on also using in the new comp. (Im going to e-mail Gigabyte about this, but has anyone heard anything about it?)
Ram, these are among the cheapest (from this company) that is in the 16GB capacity, If I went for 8GB then I could get it down to about $100, but I suppose my question for this is, is 8GB going to be enough for the next 2-3 years for gaming? It's going to be some probably light video editing, it's not a full time job, it would be a hobby so I think I could live with 8GB What do people think? also is there a noticeable difference between 9 and 10 latency?
Graphics card, I have a GTX 460, was good at the time, is still good but a few days ago my comp crashed and now my gpu isn't being detected, i can still use it to view things , not play games (it's weird.) And the 760 seems like it would be the next midrange card to go for.
I didn't include a DVD drive, because I will salvage that from my current comp, I have an external 2TB drive hooked up via eSATA, which i'll be buying a adapter for it since the Thermaltake tower doesn't have a built in eSATA port, no does the MB.

All Up this build is going to cost $1095 Aus, that doesn't include a CPU cooler if I choose to get one, or a DVD drive, (still using speakers, mouse, keyboard etc)

Any help and input/suggestions is greatly appreciated, thanks guys.
Ba!nesy.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, the reason I'm asking for help is because although I've looked at everything I want to make sure that i've chosen products that will work with each other. Thanks.
 
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A few notes-

I checked, and
http://www.centrecom.com.au/gigabyte-amd-r9-280x-oc-pcie30-3gb
^For a mere $60 more you can get an R9 280X. With that minor of a price difference, you really ought to get the superior card. Note that for video editing, if your software supports CUDA, and video editing is of primary importance (over gaming) to you, you should get an Nvidia card instead.

Also, you are aware that a 4670 can not overclock, and to overclock you need a 4670K and a Z87 board, like the Z87-A from ASUS, right?

Go with the CL9 ram. CL10 on 1600Mhz RAM tells me that these are bottom of the bin IC's and you want to steer clear.

Thermaltake cases are not very good quality, and you can get something much nicer from Corsair or Antec or Silverstone etc etc. Corsair is my fav case mfg atm.

I wouldn't buy anything from Cooler Master either personally. Maybe look at a Corsair or Seasonic PSU instead. They make stuff in the same price range. IME the Corsair CX600 is quite reliable.

As far as your external 2TB drive is concerned, it might be wise to take that out of its enclosure and put it inside the actual PC. That's what I'd do. Or budget a nice 2TB WD Black or Blue drive for your new PC.
 
Thanks for your response. Reason for the CPU and MB is because I will not be overclocking. I've never had any experience in it, and I most likely wont need it with these specs. (unless theres another reason with the motherboard, But with only 3-4 drives and no other cards going in I don't think I need to upgrade the MB.)
Ram, fair enough, I always was looking for CL9 but recently I just started looking at 16GB and these were the cheapest from this company (and it's also the closest to my place)
Thermaltake aren't good quality cases? I would have thought they were the high range than the others?, oh well I found a corsair case thats similar in price (and still kinda cool)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/carbide-series-spec-02-red-led-mid-tower-gaming-case

For the PSU, it was one of the cheaper PSU's, and so I did some research and people do tend to like the corsairs PSU's over all others, so here are 2 others That I've found (assuming that 500W is enough for this build)
http://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-cx500-80-plus-bronze-certified-power-supply
http://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-cx500m
Only $4 Difference, is Modular worth the $4 extra?
I have another smaller HDD, cant remember, might be 320 GB still going strong so I'll probably put that in and use it as extra space (my plan is to put Win on the Samsung SSD and put Ubuntu on Vertex 2 (until Linux becomes the gaming system over Windows) and use the HDD as extra space to install stuff on.)
Graphics card, from what I've seen the GTX 760 is more than enough for my needs, i've never minded lowering graphics to be able to play a game comfortably, and I also prefer Nvidia over ati. always had an nvidia, never had a problem, (unless its in a 3.5 year old comp) and 1 ati card we had (at work) didn't perform too well.
Thanks.
 
I would at least up grade to a GTX 770 so it will be more future proof with the CPU you are purchasing.:cool::popcorn:
 
$85 for a CX500!?? Australia is the land of ripoffs... It's a $30-35 unit here in the US and Canada when it's on sale. Still a solid choice. Modular is easier to build with get it. It's worth $4. The case you chose will be fine.
 
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Yeah Australia seems to get jibbed on everything electrical. Im assuming 500 watts will be sufficient? from what I could calculate it was ok.
I don't want to spend too much more on it, my budget is around the $1k mark, and this is already going over it.
Will I need a CPU cooler for this CPU? my i5 760 tended to overheat when playing skyrim at some points, and couldn't last 5 mins in Rise of the Triad.
 
Try to get a better case. If you can find a Corsair 200R it should be about the same price as the thermaltake case you selected. Also, find out what front, rear, and top fan mounts (size in mm x how many) your selected case has. Pick up a few extra fans for your case to keep things cool. Usually cases only include a rear fan, or at best, 1 rear fan and one front fan. I like to run 2 front fans, 1 rear fan, and at least 1 top fan. More is better. Of course, the drone of 15 fans can be annoying, but it's better than overheating parts.

CPU should be fine without an aftermarket heatsink. If you want a decent aftermarket unit that won't break the bank ($30 in North America... I have no idea what cruel pricing tricks your home country will play with this one...) get a Hyper 212 Evo. It'll keep the CPU cooler at stock. With decent case cooling though, you shouldn't need more than the stock HSF. Usually gaming only ramps a CPU up to 50-75% load so temps shouldn't be too out of control. I do feel that Intel's stock heatsink is quite pathetic and undersized...
 
The vertex2 will not work with a Haswell based system. The SandForce controller is not supported and they have no plans on updating firmware to make it work. I found this out the hard way several months back.
 
Lvcoyote said:
The vertex2 will not work with a Haswell based system. The SandForce controller is not supported and they have no plans on updating firmware to make it work. I found this out the hard way several months back.
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Damn... the drive is still good, and it was about $150 when I first bought it like 3.5 years ago. Any known workarounds for it?
 
It may be a dino, but it still spanks the best HDD by leaps and bounds. I use one in my review rig and its just peachy. I would still get a Samsung 840 EVO or pro (not the vanilla 840 as TOCNoob mentioned).

The vertex2 will not work with a Haswell based system. The SandForce controller is not supported and they have no plans on updating firmware to make it work. I found this out the hard way several months back.
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It does work. Its in my review rig...

EDIT: Sorry, my mining rig which is haswell based.
 
Theocnoob said:
There's a vanilla 840? I was not referring to that. I mean either an evo or a pro. Sorry about that.
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Yes, there is an 840/840 EVO/840 PRO.
Just as there was an 830/830 PRO.

The vanilla ones are meh on writes.
 
EarthDog said:
It does work. Its in my review rig...

EDIT: Sorry, my mining rig which is haswell based.
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Really? from what i've read it only works like 10% of the time. Oh well, theres always ways around it anyway.
And Yes I do plan on Buying a 840 EVO 120GB, install Windows on that, and Ubuntu on the Vertex.
 
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