The ultimate machine....will it work???

Philc54 · Mar 18, 2006

Hello to everyone at OC.

Ok. A good friend of mine has come to me and said, "I want the best PC you can build me". He given me a budget of around 5-6 Grand (£5-6000). I have a small amount of knowledge and have put together to as what I think will be a stunning system.
So far i have:

BFG 7900GTX 512MB DDR3
PCI-E
(Times Two in SLI)

Thermaltake VA8000BWS Armour Super Tower
Black

Western Digital WD740GD 74GB "Raptor" 10,000RPM
Times FOUR in RAID-0

Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe Socket 939 Nvidia NF4 ATX

WaterChill Xtreme CPU/VGA/Chipset Cooling Kit
- WaterChill Antarctica CPU Cooler (Socket /939/
- WaterChill Chipset Cooler
- Triple Black Ice Pro 120mm radiator
- 6x 120mm low noise Adda fan
- Software based control panel

Athlon 64 FX-60 Socket 939 Dual Core 2.6GHz 2x1MB Cache

OCZ (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) 2 x 1 GB EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Platinum

Hiper 580W Type-R Modular PSU

Belkin 650VA Superior Series Emergency Battery Backup F6H650UKUNV (UP-012-BE)

Microsoft Optical Desktop Elite For Bluetooth

Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Elite Pro

LG GSA-4167BAL 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer Internal IDE (Times two)

Creative Labs Gigaworks S750 7.1-THX

SATA/SERIAL ATA PCI RAID CARD 4 CHANNELS /6 PORTS (4+2)

Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 5-Port PCI Card

Hauppauge WinTV-PVR500 Dual TV tuner Media center Upgrade kit

Maxtor 6L300S0 DiamondMax 10 300GB 7200RPM SATA/150 16MB Cache
(Times two also in RAID-0)

Western Digital Serial ATA Secure Connect.

I haven't made my mind up on a Screen to go with it yet. I have a £500 pound budget on that. Can anyone see any problems i will come into runnning this for example one part is bottlenecking another or components has compatibility issues with another. Could you lot suggest what a good monitor for the price would be? Im looking for around a 20" plus, 19" minimun and bigger if poss but has to live up to the graphics cards etc.

dguy6789 · Mar 18, 2006

For one thing, X1900XTX Crossfire is faster than 7900GTX SLI. For another, for that much money, you should be getting dual or quad dual core Opterons.

Many people will not reply to these kinds of threads because there are thousands of them. Every week, someone asks for the forum to build them the best machine in the world, it gets old around the 3rd time.

AZNBoiOnFIYA · Mar 18, 2006

you might get more performance out of using swifty blocks over waterchill and you might want to get a g5 and saitek eclipse over that microsoft desktop elite

Tebore · Mar 18, 2006

I second some SLI system with Dual Dual core opterons. It'll be amazing in raw CPU power and when you clock up the chips to FX60 speeds there's nothing out there that can touch them.

Don't get Maxtor drives, they aren't that fast and their reliability is iffy. I'd get Seagates or Hitachi, personally i'd get seagate for the warrenty.

I wouldn't get the Gigaworks speakers you can put together a set of speakers with a real amp that's better.

As for USPs I'd get an APC and you're gonna need more juice for that system.

What kind of SATA RAID card are you getting. Don't skimp, get one with upgradable cache and it's on XOR CPU.

Also MORE RAM!!!!.

Soichiro · Mar 18, 2006

I prefer eVGA over BFG for various reasons, like their step-up program and excellent warranty service.

I'd recommend a Swiftech CPU block and Danger Den GPU block over the ones you chose, and you shouldn't really need a chipset cooler, since the heatpipe on that motherboard seems to do its job fairly well.

Aren't Hiper PSUs like really cheap? I've heard a few good things about them, but still, you really don't want to skimp on the PSU, or you might have to buy a whole new $6000 system. With that budget, I'd recommend the PCP&C 1kW unit.

Not going to comment on the peripherals, since I'm not as good with that kind of thing.

Go with the most expensive Audigy2 over the X-Fi card, I've heard a few bad things about the X-Fi series.

Get Plextor DVD burners instead, they run cooler and quieter than pretty much any other brand of DVD+RW.

I'd recommend getting WD drives instead of Maxtor, and yes, definitely make sure the RAID card has an onboard XOR processor, or it'll be no better than using the 8 ports built in to the motherboard.

MarX · Mar 18, 2006

Philc54 said:
Hello to everyone at OC.

OCZ (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) 2 x 1 GB EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel Platinum

Hiper 580W Type-R Modular PSU

IMHO I'd drop that hiper as I haven't heard good things about them and get the PCP&P 1KW go with 4gb of ram because with that budget you might as well. That is a huge budget to build a system with($10.5kUS)
Just a thought.

DietPepsi0219 · Mar 18, 2006

dguy6789 said:
Many people will not reply to these kinds of threads because there are thousands of them. Every week, someone asks for the forum to build them the best machine in the world, it gets old around the 3rd time.

ya....i dont exactly see why people make these threads....im running a dell p4 at 2.8, 764 mb of ram and a 40 gig hard drive and im getting by (can play css at low-medium settings) (new system this summer, hopefully ill scrape enough money together)..i think that the only people who make these threads are 12 year olds who are having a "who has the biggest penis" contest with their friend or trying to impress a little girl with their ten thousand dollar system that they cried to their parents about and made them buy it for them....im 16 and my parents are divorced, sure they used to buy me stuff but it wasnt like "mommy, daddy, i want this fx-60 for christmas and if you dont get it for me ill pout and cry until you do".....and now after getting divorced, my mom has no money to buy anything with, my dad is trying as hard as he can to keep whatever money hes making wherever he lives now and im working part time at a catering company and playing guitar at a cafe trying to make my own money that neither of my parents can take from me (my mom still owes me the 500 i loaned her)....so these threads really irritate me....and if youre not a little kid and perhaps maybe even an adult, to you i say that youre acting like an immature 12 year old....or maybe im just mad because my parents wont buy me anything and i dont have enough money to buy a 20 thousand dollar system that will be outperformed by an overclocked system that cost a grand :shrug:

why get four 74 gig raptors, just get two 150's....and why not ddr2 ram?

aeiou · Mar 18, 2006

Yeah, drop the 4 74 raptors and go with 2 150's. They will be faster and more reliable (cut the data loss chance in half). Don't get that psu. As sugested, I would go with the pcp&c 1kw. You sholdn't need the sata raid card as that mobo should do that just fine by itself.

greenmaji · Mar 18, 2006

At 6K you really need to check in the SMP section (or 2CPU) and build a mulicore-multi-prosessor opty workstation/gaming rig. And just match up the best VGA card(s) that will run on it.
PSU-Zippy 700W or better..

GearShift3r · Mar 18, 2006

DietPepsi0219 said:
why get four 74 gig raptors, just get two 150's....and why not ddr2 ram?

AMD does not support DDR2 ram yet.

Also, I also agree that the Hiper PSU would not be a good choice. I have not seen any good reviews for that power supply. A Zippy or PCP&C unit would be much more reliable.

-GearShift3r

ilikepie · Mar 18, 2006

Holy crap thats in pounds not dollars.

500 is a bit low for a screen compared how much ur spending on everything else.

Probably the best lcd is the dell 30" http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/monitor_3007wfp?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

wa77ss · Mar 18, 2006

.... etc

Thats what you should build him. And also, stay away from W/C kits, just get Maze4GPU blocks, StormG5 CPU block, and a nice radiator and your all set.

Good luck !!

Soichiro · Mar 19, 2006

WaTTz said:
Saphire X1900XTX MasterCard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102676

Lol! I'll take one of those over a 7800GT MasterCard any day

frenzy20 · Mar 19, 2006

Make it 2x 150gb WD Raptor hard drives, the 1kW power supply, maybe 2 500gb hard drives for storage, get faster or more memory, go for the G5/G7 mouse and a saitek eclipse or logitech G15 keyboard, I don't think it would be that important to get water cooling, it is good, but a bit of a pain, just get a ninja scythe or some other high end air cooler. For monitor get one of the big dells, 24" or 30". I think the best speakers you can get are the M-Audio LX4's with the surround expansion. Good luck and have fun building a computer that will be outdated in 1 year.

ckj · Mar 19, 2006

Get the zippy 700w, that monster psu will power anything. Also, consider a lian li or maybe the silverstone Tj-07 for the tower, i'd stay away from thermaltake for anything that high end.

Get two 150gb raptors, they're faster than the 74 and don't raid them, it doesn't produce any real world benefits. And definately get better peripherals than microsoft bluetooth elite. Some other posters have some good suggestions, logitech g5, saitech elite, razer diamondback etc...

apu318 · Mar 19, 2006

MarX said:
IMHO I'd drop that hiper as I haven't heard good things about them and get the PCP&P 1KW go with 4gb of ram because with that budget you might as well. That is a huge budget to build a system with($10.5kUS)
Just a thought.

I agree. That system will make most 580-600watt PSU's pop. I read a thread on here about a Hiper dying and taking a lot of the system with it, I was surprised. Go with an Antec or Forton. The 1kw psu would be your best bet. Don't cheap out on this area.

DietPepsi0219 · Mar 19, 2006

GearShift3r said:
AMD does not support DDR2 ram yet.

Also, I also agree that the Hiper PSU would not be a good choice. I have not seen any good reviews for that power supply. A Zippy or PCP&C unit would be much more reliable.

-GearShift3r

ah my fault, i was under the impression that you didnt need am2 to use ddr2...oops

greenmaji · Mar 19, 2006

ckj said:
Get the zippy 700w, that monster psu will power anything.

Bingo.. it has crazy power

Sjaak · Mar 19, 2006

Getting all worked up for nothing..he hasn't even replied yet.

greenmaji · Mar 19, 2006

^^ hince my short answers.. but yea, I agree

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