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EpicMango

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Did a benchmark on 12.8 the day 12.8 came out and my scores dwindled slightly from 12.7b

@975
12.7: 1241
12.8:1221

@1050
12.7: 1324
12.8: 1291

How are your guys OC's on 12.8? I was running a little busy on that day, so I wasn't able to get past 1100/1300mhz. I believe I was pushing 1.7v at the time. I'll probably mess around with it more tonight, since the 660ti came out, I've been feeling less than sufficient in my GPU now, so I must re-attain my 50% 1290/1300 speeds ASAP, so I can feel better :p
 
Don't feel bad, some of reviews are using factory overclocked GTX 660ti cards against reference cards, so the results are skewed in favor of the GTX 660ti.

In reality (reference for reference) its the same as a 7870 if not slightly less.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/geforce-gtx-660-ti-benchmark-review,review-32505-17.html

7970 = 141.3%
GTX 670= 126.5%
7950= 120.5%
7870= 110.7%
GTX 660ti= 107.4%
GTX 580 = 100%

As for the performance of the drivers, this is what i found http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7274077&postcount=9

The highest overclock i managed to get on my card was 22.5% @ 1.27v, i don't have the guts to do 1.3v.

That's pretty average like your overclock there is nothing wrong with it, 7### series cards reviewed have done worse.
 
No, see whats odd is I've EASILY hit 1290/1500 on 12.6
Literally, with almost no sweat. So I know that its very possible, but it seems the stability comes more from the driver than the card itself..

And correction, that would say 1.17, not 1.7v hahah. 1.7 and I should be at like 1700/2500 speeds, smoking 680's hahahah

In reality (reference for reference) its the same as a 7870 if not slightly less.
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That makes me slightly happy I guess....and since I'm 13% factory OC'd, I guess I'm sitting right on a 660ti. And since I can OC thee absolute crap out of my 7850, I guess I should be just fine actually!
 
As long as the 660 ti is higher priced than the 7870 the only chance for Nvidia to make this work is
1. Denounce AMD for theyr inferior drivers (although Nvidia is always boasting instead).
2. Releasing a shorter and more power efficient design (however, in many rewiews it was barely better than what a 7870 had to offer).

The main issue for the 660ti however is, its lack for being able to run high resolution displays, it will fail because 24 ROPs is only fully sufficient at 1080P and below. The interface is kinda limited too at 192 bit (sweet spot is 256, clearly)... i dont think to high about that weird broken 670 GTX. The 7870 is simply a better overall product. Power saving 660 ti vs. 670 GTX is pretty marginal because there is still same amount of texture unit, which are main reason for being power hungry. But with the cutted down ROPs, they kinda disabled any high capability of AA, as soon as the resolution is 1080P and higher. At that point it can have some issues maintaining it.

All they had in mind at the 660ti... "well we gonna kill some ROPs and chomp at the interface a little, so they can have it for cheap". But the only reason for it to own is to save up for being broken. A 7870 is on the other hand a pretty capable piece which is balanced, without unevenly cutted down wings. It is able to save up on power vs. a 7950 without losing to much of its potency. A 660 ti can save up almost nothing on power, and cant even get the same performance because of the breakdown in ROP and interface. They cutted down something which is not power hungry and a good addition to overall performance as long as the sweet spot is not meet.

I dunno... for me its just a weird piece.
 
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Ivy said:
As long as the 660 ti is higher priced than the 7870 the only chance for Nvidia to make this work is
1. Denounce AMD for theyr inferior drivers (although Nvidia is always boasting instead).
2. Releasing a shorter and more power efficient design (however, in many rewiews it was barely better than what a 7870 had to offer).

The main issue for the 660ti however is, its lack for being able to run high resolution displays, it will fail because 24 ROPs is only fully sufficient at 1080P and below. The interface is kinda limited too at 192 bit (sweet spot is 256, clearly)... i dont think to high about that weird broken 670 GTX. The 7870 is simply a better overall product. Power saving 660 ti vs. 670 GTX is pretty marginal because there is still same amount of texture unit, which are main reason for being power hungry. But with the cutted down ROPs, they kinda disabled any high capability of AA, as soon as the resolution is 1080P and higher. At that point it can have some issues maintaining it.

All they had in mind at the 660ti... "well we gonna kill some ROPs and chomp at the interface a little, so they can have it for cheap". But the only reason for it to own is to save up for being broken. A 7870 is on the other hand a pretty capable piece which is balanced, without unevenly cutted down wings. It is able to save up on power vs. a 7950 without losing to much of its potency. A 660 ti can save up almost nothing on power, and cant even get the same performance because of the breakdown in ROP and interface. They cutted down something which is not power hungry and a good addition to overall performance as long as the sweet spot is not meet.

I dunno... for me its just a weird piece.
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That sums up exactly what i'm thinking, its kind of like swapping the in line 4 cylinder engine in your small car for a big V8 and then taking 4 of the spark plugs out so its not as fast as your bigger more expensive V8 cars :shrug:
 
Its quite annoying...
12.6, I can reach 1290/1500 on 1.25

12.8 I can't even get to 1200/1200 on 1.2v

and on 12.6 I didn't even have to touch voltages to read 1200/1500
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Heaven just crashes after the loading screen...not even the benching part, just loading INTO heaven..

And this is exactly why I just want to jump train and go with Nvidia...

I'm seriously thinking about reverting to 12.6. Get to 1300/1500 and then see if my heaven scores are justifiable to stay on 12.6

2 words: iHate AMD
 
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Try turning the Board Power Line up to +20. and in CCC first if you have it.
 
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Its set to 0 in your screen cap.

Also your volts are very low for 1200Mhz. i realise its a 7850 not /70 but they are still the same silicon minus 10 / 15% cores.
The stock volts on mine is 1.22v (see pic) your only running 1.14v, how far does that slider go?

Have you actually benched your memory at 1500Mhz vs 1350Mhz or so?
Running very high memory can sap a lot of juice from the core and i don't see any performance improvement over 1375Mhz.

One more thing, you have been given a GTX 580 performance level card, with the overclock you can achieve in your screen cap your running gaming performance at stock GTX 660ti / 7870 for £60 / £70 less money, don't hate AMD because you can't get a 50% overclock on the stock cooler and without some serious solder modding, good grief we should all be so incredibly lucky :D:p
 

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That screen cap was from the very first day I got my 7850 and I was playing around with it. I don't think I benched that speed..probably was unstable

And regarding CCC, I don't even have CCC on my system...I don't want it :p

Tonight, I'm going to just ramp up my voltages to 1.225 and see how high I can get on my core clocks. My memory clocks beyond 1300 gives me blah screen while benching.. on 12.8...not on 12.6 :\ I really don't care about memory clocks anyways, all about core clocks :D

And I know I can go beyond the 50% core clock, I've got thee coldest running 7850 you can buy, its Windforce son ;) I'll report back here tonight with scores and temps!

BTW during benching, what are your GPU-Z temp readings? I'm curious to see how my Tempest Evo handles with GPU heat..
 
So I've not been stable @ 1150 on 1.225v and thats excessively low, so I'm reinstalling Heaven Bench, because I think its just been corrupted after all its crashes with the DX11 error. I'll be reporting back soon.

I'm not even stable at 1120.....I might be thinking it may be the driver. I am thinking about reinstalling Windows 7 so I might do some bench testing fresh out of the box if I plan to do that! Until then, bleh!
 
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Good luck with that ^^^^

Have some benches for you, muwwaaahahah :attn::bump:

Heaven @ 1225 / 1375. Still the highest i'm able to get that to pass 12.6 or 12.8
Edit- actually managed to get it to run @ 1270 in loop with full volts, that was scary, never again lol.


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3DMark 11, Highest pass 1250 / 1375.

Score
P7212 3DMarks

Graphics Score
7521

Physics Score
6618

Combined Score
6146

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4169020

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That's getting close to a stock GTX 670 :D

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Ok, what might help you is if you disable UPLS, In TRIXX and the registry.

If you do a registry search for 'EnableUlps' and then edit both strings to 0

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Frakk said:
Good luck with that ^^^^

Have some benches for you, muwwaaahahah :attn::bump:

Heaven @ 1225 / 1375. Still the highest i'm able to get that to pass 12.6 or 12.8
Edit- actually managed to get it to run @ 1270 in loop with full volts, that was scary, never again lol.


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3DMark 11, Highest pass 1250 / 1375.

Score
P7212 3DMarks

Graphics Score
7521

Physics Score
6618

Combined Score
6146

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4169020

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That's getting close to a stock GTX 670 :D

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Ok, what might help you is if you disable UPLS, In TRIXX and the registry.

If you do a registry search for 'EnableUlps' and then edit both strings to 0

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Wow, I'm jealous! My computer is similar to yours (my 7850 is 1200 core and 1350 mem) of course I have an FX-4170, but it's overclocked to 4.6. The best I can manage on Heaven is 1325. All because my min FPS is ALWAYS at like 8, no matter what I do. :mad: I dont think your 25mhz lead on the core and mem is doing it; sad to think that even at 4.6 the 4170 is that much worse than an old Phenom.
 
I'll do some heaven when I get home but my 7950 seems to have the same performance from 12.7b to 12.8. And according to that toms chart I'm just ahead of a stock 6990 in 3d11. I get around 10,300 or so gfx score.
 
Obsidus said:
Wow, I'm jealous! My computer is similar to yours (my 7850 is 1200 core and 1350 mem) of course I have an FX-4170, but it's overclocked to 4.6. The best I can manage on Heaven is 1325. All because my min FPS is ALWAYS at like 8, no matter what I do. :mad: I dont think your 25mhz lead on the core and mem is doing it; sad to think that even at 4.6 the 4170 is that much worse than an old Phenom.
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I have a 7870 not a 7850 ;) Clock for clock the 7850 will always be behind the 7870.

You have 1024 shaders, i have 1280, that's 25% more GPU.
 
On the subject of 7870 vs 660ti that Frakk and Ivy were discussing. Here are a couple 660ti benchmarks.
The first is 100% stock 3770k, 100% stock 660ti
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The second is OCing both.

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Didn't AMD release a new BIOS for reference cards that cranks the clocks up and makes the power slider do something useful?
Are you guys on that bios, or the older one?
 
Bobnova said:
On the subject of 7870 vs 660ti that Frakk and Ivy were discussing. Here are a couple 660ti benchmarks.
The first is 100% stock 3770k, 100% stock 660ti
View attachment 114797

The second is OCing both.

View attachment 114796


Didn't AMD release a new BIOS for reference cards that cranks the clocks up and makes the power slider do something useful?
Are you guys on that bios, or the older one?
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thats a freeking nice score tbh. My 670 @ 1330 boost gets around 10700 graphics score ( i think i have even got near the 10900 on a couple of runs :D )
 
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