F Class - The Alvarez Hypothesis's submission/strategy thread

[Wega!]

The Alvarez Hypothesis submission thread, for systems with 6-7 handicap points.



PLEASE NOTE TIMELINE :

Forum Wars 2011 Dates:

* Feb 16th (off day for roster submissions)
* Feb 17th (go to war)
* Feb 25th (Part one completed.. forum scoring ranks noted)
* March 2nd (Database is closed (to competing forums)
* March 3rd (All disputed scores listed at TRP)
* March 5th Part two completed.. forum scoring ranks added to part one for overall winner)



Scoring Template.....when submitting scores, please use this format:
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Username - Forum - Class - Team Name
CPU (x) (list how many threads)
RAM (type & Speed)
GPU (x) (list how many cores!, such as "8800GTX (x1)" or "HD4870x2 (x2)")
Cooling (x) (List cooling handicap for cooling.. Air, Water, LN2, DI, etc.)
Total System Handicap (x)

Geekbench 32 bit Score:
Link (no screen shot required)

3DMark Vantage Score:
Link (no screen shot required)

3DMark06 Score:
Link (no screen shot required)

wPrime 32M Score:
Screen shot (a valid screen shot (result, 2x CPUz (one memory, one CPU) and Special Wallpaper).

Stock Speed: xxxx
OC'ed Speed: xxxx
Percentage per calculator: xxx%
OC Bonus: xxxxx

Total Score:

Calculator screen shot (optional)
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Current F Class ranking:

1. Wega! - 321,861
2. I.M.O.G - 321,191
3. ChanceCoats123 - 304,261

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• MattNo5ss - 272,245
• A-Dub - 259,839

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Ok, I've been granted the honor of being Team captain for F Class
I would like to say that I'm looking forward to this, and hope that we can have a lot of fun
while pushing our hardware together
I have looked a bit at our opponents and posted a list, take a look at it and point out our biggest threats.
Also please post if you have an idea to how much you will be able to improve your score.

And please post your best score in this thread, using the usual standard format posted above.
I will keep the OP updated so that we have an nice overview of the class.

Let the games begin!

Good luck all, and remember to have fun
Wega/Daniel

 

[Wega!]

List of opponents in Class F:


OCN:


- PizzaMan - OCN - Class F - Noshing Nash - Knows he's way around the bot, but no submissions wit the hardware he's gonna use for the FW
1090T (x6) 6 threads
G. SKill Ripjaws-1600
GTX 470 (x1) Cooling (x0)
Air Total
System Handicap (7)

- ElGappo - OCN - F - Noshing Nash - -Nothing on the bot, unless he benches for another team than OCN?
CPU 1090t (6c6t)
RAM STT 2000 7-7-7
GPU GTX570 (x1)
Cooling Air (0)
Handicap 7

- Slappa - Overclock.net - Class F, Noshing Nash -Wprime = [email protected] on air, has a lot of submissions on the bot
CPU: Phenom II X6 1090T (6) Threads
RAM: Mushkin Ridgeback PC3-12800 1600MHz 6-8-6-24 @ (6-8-5-15)
GPU: EVGA GTX570 SC (1)
Cooling: Air Cooling - Venomous X RT (0)
Total System Handicap: (7)


TRP:

- Equinox TRP Forums - Vantage = 22,819 (CPU on H2O), 3DM 06 = 27,446 (CPU on H2O) - His CPU is at 4.786Ghz on these scores. Wprime = 4sec 984ms @ 4.934, but again thats on H2O. Dunno how much this guy got when he's running on air?
1090T (6 threads)
asus crosshair3
corsair dom. gt's 2000DDR3
6970
air
Handicap: 7 (F Team)

- Cvsi3 TRP Forums - Wprime = [email protected] on water,
Q9650 (4 threads)
Gigabyte EP45T-USB3P
Gskill DDR3 2133mhz
MSI 5870 (1 VGA Cores)
Water cooling (1)
Handicap: 6 (F Team)

- PorscheRacer14 - Got nothing on the bot, other than some old AMD stuff
AMD Phenom II x6 1055T (6 threads) - air
Gigabyte MA-790FXT-UD5P
4 x 2GB Patriot Server Class LV DDR3-1600 (no heatsinks - I should get a point back for this!! ullhair: )
ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB Media Edition (1 core) - air
Handicap of 7 = Class F

-DW0378 TRP - Nothing, I guess they dont use the bot much?
Phenom ll X6 1055T (6)
Asus crosshair IV
G.SKILL Flare 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000)
XFX 6970 (1)
Air cooling (0)
handicap (7) F Team

-Flibo OCC Forums - Not on Miah's list, so maybe he got pulled?
Intel Core 2 Q9300 (4 threads)
ASUS P5Q-PRO
Some Kingston 800 MHz DDR2 memory at 5-5-5-18
NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX (1 VGA Core)
Air Cooling (0)
Handicap: 5 (F Team): Team Full Frontal Assault

-hokiealumnus - TRP - Do I know this guy? All I could find on our mod is that he got his 6970 up to 935/1.435MHz = 24,679 GPU Vantage score. too bad this guy knows what he's doing and love to tell others about it...
Phenom II x6 1075T (6 threads)
ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
G.Skill Flare DDR3-2000 / 7-9-7-28
AMD HD 6970 (1)
Air cooling (0)
Handicap: (7) (F Team)

-theoldtimer TRP Forums - Again, nothing on this user.
AMD 955be (4 threads)
AMD motherboard
Corsair GT's 2000 DDR3
Asus 5970 (2 VGA Cores)
water (1)
Handicap: 7 (F Team)

-TheWolf TRP Forum - Wprime = [email protected] on air, I really think this guy will be limited too much by his CPU to get anything dangerous out of those 480's. Do you agree?
QuadCore Q6600 (4 threads)
Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6
G Skill F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ )
MSI 2xGTX480 (2 VGA Cores)
AIR Cooled
Stock speed: 2400 MHz
Handicap: (6) (F Team)

- Tubbs -TRP - Wprime = [email protected] on water, experienced dude but he's HW isnt really that good.
Q8400 (x4) 4 threads
5770 (x1) Cooling (x0)
Chilled H2O (x2)
Total System Handicap (7)


Neo:


-Ren of Heavens (Neoseeker Forums) Class F
AMD 1090T X6 (6 Threads)
Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
4GB Corsair XMS3 Dominator DDR3 1600Mhz
XFX HD 5830 (1 VGA Core)
Air Cooling
Handicap: 7 (F, Team Bigfoot)

-The Slayer (Neoseeker Forums) Class F
i5 760 (4 threads)
EVGA P55 Classified 200
Patriot Viper Extreme 4gb 2000mhz
Sapphire 5770, 5750 coming soon
Corsair H70 (water cooling)
Handicap: 7


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AMD:
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[Wega!]

Wega! - OCForums - F - The Alvarez Hypothesis
QX9650 (4)
2x Kingston 1333Mhz
GTX480 (1)
Water (1)
Total System Handicap (6)

Geekbench 32 bit Score:
8221 - http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/354415

3DMark Vantage Score:
22382 - http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2918112

3DMark06 Score:
26144 - http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15419388

wPrime 32M Score:

Stock Speed: 3000
OC'ed Speed: 4701
Percentage per calculator: 156,7%
OC Bonus: 56,700

Total Score: 316,653


I'm pretty sure that I can improve a bit here. I'm getting some faster rams very soon, and i hope that they can help on my scores. I also just got the GTX480 and havent had time to get it too the max. Can you mod the bios for more volt on the 480's as you can on the 460? Do you guys think I'll get better results if i pull off the plastic shield on it and stick an Ultra Kaze on the HS?
The weather also looks great for benching the next couple of weeks: Between 0 and -10c
So I have something to work with, hoping to break 320K FW points...

 

[ChanceCoats123]

-hokiealumnus - TRP
Phenom II x6 1075T (6 threads)
ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
G.Skill Flare DDR3-2000 / 7-9-7-28
AMD HD 6970 (1)
Air cooling (0)
Handicap: (7) (F Team)

Is this a joke...

Anyway, here are my scores. I should be able to go higher.

ChanceCoats123 - OCF - F - "The Alvarez Hypothesis"
Cpu: Phenom II 555 (3)
RAM: (4gb Corsair Dominator GTX3 1600@6-7-6-18-20-1T)
GPU: 5850 (1)
Cooling: DIce (3)
Total System Handicap (7)

Geekbench 32 bit Score: 8019
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/350943

3DMark Vantage Score: 17,673
Link (no screen shot required)

3DMark06 Score: 24,828
Link (no screen shot required)

wPrime 32M Score: 9.078s
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ChanceCoats123/9078Wprime32.jpg

Stock Speed: 3200
OC'ed Speed: 5364
Percentage per calculator: 167.625%
OC Bonus: 67,625

Total Score: 304,261

 

[Wega!]

Is this a joke...

I'm afraid not... He is listed over there and not here on OCF

 

[MattNo5ss]

Looks like PII x6 and 1 GPU on air is where it's at... Good luck guys

Yes, Wega!, you can edit the bios for a higher maximum voltage. Try to get something better than stock air going on the GPU. Do you have any tower CPU coolers to strap to it?

 

[m0r7if3r]

Is this a joke...

Anyway, here are my scores. I should be able to go higher.

lulz, hokie said he'd be doing that a while back. it's part of his being a judge or something.

 

[Bobnova]

It's easy to forget, but despite being a mod and writer here hokie's loyalty is to TRP.
NEVAR FORGET!


(or something. In this case, just hope he's found good ole' Jack'n'Coke somewhere )

 

[Wega!]

Looks like PII x6 and 1 GPU on air is where it's at... Good luck guys

Yes i feel a bit alone with my Intel CPU in this class

Yes, Wega!, you can edit the bios for a higher maximum voltage. Try to get something better than stock air going on the GPU. Do you have any tower CPU coolers to strap to it?

No I dont have any air coolers besides Intel stock coolers. But i might look into finding one cheap. Any recommendations? But that solution will leave my RAMs without cooling, wont it?

 

[Bobnova]

Too bad you're in denmark, otherwise I'd loan you the stock cooler off the 980x, it's nice and chunky.

 

[m0r7if3r]

No I dont have any air coolers besides Intel stock coolers. But i might look into finding one cheap. Any recommendations? But that solution will leave my RAMs without cooling, wont it?

TRUE is a good one for cheap these days, they can be had for $30. Venomous x and megahalems are both solid choices as well

 

[MattNo5ss]

Yes i feel a bit alone with my Intel CPU in this class

No I dont have any air coolers besides Intel stock coolers. But i might look into finding one cheap. Any recommendations? But that solution will leave my RAMs without cooling, wont it?

You can just point fans at the RAM chips, and definitely put air flow on the VRMs. You can usually get a set of RAM sinks and thermal tape pretty cheap. If you can find a vendor, you may want to get some for the VRMs at least.

Too bad you're in denmark, otherwise I'd loan you the stock cooler off the 980x, it's nice and chunky.

Yeah, I have a few GPU coolers and a lot of RAM sinks... Shaman, MK-13, and Venomous X. Only if he wasn't overseas...

 

[Wega!]

Yes the Atlantic sea gets in the way sometimes, but thanks for the offers anyway

Loots of good suggestions on heatsinks, and I'll start looking around. But it might be just as expensive as buying an Ek GPU waterblock... Maybe that would be a better choice? Moo is talking about putting my rad into a bucket of ice, to chill my water. Is that allowed for the FW's without calling it a "Chiller"? If it is ok, then i might give that a try... What do you guys think of that?

And as for the rams, I think I'll just leave the stock cooling plate on the card, if there is enough room to mount the GPU cooling with the plate below...

 

[Bobnova]

Has to be air that is cooling the radiator.
It can be air that came out of an AC unit 6" before going into the rad, but it has to be air.
(And no, I don't think the surface film of air that prevents ln2 from actually touching warm things counts )

 

[Wega!]

Has to be air that is cooling the radiator.
It can be air that came out of an AC unit 6" before going into the rad, but it has to be air.
(And no, I don't think the surface film of air that prevents ln2 from actually touching warm things counts )

Ok, so the ice cant touch the rad... Hmm then it's going to be a little though Ohh well I just have to hope that we get the -10C outside then...

 

[m0r7if3r]

Ok, so the ice cant touch the rad... Hmm then it's going to be a little though Ohh well I just have to hope that we get the -10C outside then...

fill a cooler with dry ice, then cut a rad shaped hole in the top of the cooler. Punch some vents on the sides so air can get in. presto chango. cold air.

 

[Wega!]

You think that will give a much better result than just pulling air in from outside if there is -5 to-10C out there?


I really think that I might give the Swiftech MCW80 a shot: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=262937
Would be awesome if I could mount it on the stock plate

 

[m0r7if3r]

You think that will give a much better result than just pulling air in from outside if there is -5 to-10C out there?

Not sure...one way to find out
styrofoam cooler + a couple lbs of dice shouldn't run ya too much...don't forget to antifreeze the loop.

 

[Wega!]

He he I had a handicap point to spare... I'm now allowed to use chilled water Thanks Moo!

So if i drop my rad into a bucket with water and drops a lot of ice in it, I should be good, right? Wonder how fast the ice is gonna melt... I think I'm going to need a lot of ice

 

[m0r7if3r]

So if i drop my rad into a bucket with water and drops a lot of ice in it, I should be good, right? Wonder how fast the ice is gonna melt... I think I'm going to need a lot of ice

And a bigger boat . Something to consider: ice turns to water, so use one of those coolers with a valve and have a way of draining it so that you can add more ice.