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I currently have my comp as it is below, but even at stock, putting the mem at 2-2-2-5 renders it unable to boot (as in nothing on the screen and continuous long beeps (sometimes)). Why???
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Why cant I do 2-2-2-5 on my 2-3-2-5?
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You probably dont have TCCD. Only TCCD and BH5 can run with solid 2s. All other RAM cannot handle that tight of a latency without completely failing. This is why.
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Sentential said:
Not all TCCD runs at 5-2-2-2...some are rated at 6-3-3-2 at PC3200...
What voltage(s) are you trying?
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glock19owner said:
Oh? Im not challenging that but that is a first. What RAM is rated at that with TCCD?
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The G. Skill's LB's, LD's, LF's...
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) 2.5-4-4-8, PC3200 2-3-3-6 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-1GBLD)
So if G. Skill is using the lesser TCCD chips...odds are other companys are using them also...
kakaroto said:
G.SKILL PC4400(DDR550) 2.5-4-4-8, PC3200 2-3-3-6 1GB Kit (F1-3200DSU2-1GBLD)
So if G. Skill is using the lesser TCCD chips...odds are other companys are using them also...
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stock voltages (auto, anyway). Dont want to kill anything...I just got this thing running last night...
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Unless his PDP was advertised as "with XBL Technology," it's not TCCD. Period. No TCCD = NO 2-2-2-5.
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It could be CH-5, but usally CH-5 can do 2/2/2/5 timmings.
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1T was working fine up until 215. Cant get past that. Tried up to 2.85v at 215, no good. 214 is fine, 215 doesnt work.
All the TCCD I seen will run 2-2-2-5, but not very high . Maybe 211-215 max. But a lot of the NF3 boards don't like CAS2 whatsoever, be it BH-5 or TCCD. I think the ones with the later chipset love BH-5 if you can feed it volts. I'm currently at 247, 2-2-2-5 with 2x512 XMS3500 on my 9NDA3+ board at 3.184 VDIMM (VDIMM modded). The board was made in late November so must have the late chipset. I should do 250 at a tad over 3.2 VDIMM. Time to bump the pot.
. Maybe 211-215 max. But a lot of the NF3 boards don't like CAS2 whatsoever, be it BH-5 or TCCD. I think the ones with the later chipset love BH-5 if you can feed it volts. I'm currently at 247, 2-2-2-5 with 2x512 XMS3500 on my 9NDA3+ board at 3.184 VDIMM (VDIMM modded). The board was made in late November so must have the late chipset. I should do 250 at a tad over 3.2 VDIMM. Time to bump the pot.
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It's not CH-5, unless you bought it awhile back. It's probably mosel V58C2256804SATB.
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2-3-2-5
This spec is very powerful.
I guess that this is winbond .13mm process.
If you want to check what chip it is,the BIOS High voltage.
If it can ddr466 pr 480 2-3-2-5 in the 3.1c, this is winbond .13mm process.
Good luck as the same as the TWIMMOS.
If it is very strong,It maybe ddr500 2-3-2-5 or 2-2-2-5in the high voltage 3.1v.
rgards
This spec is very powerful.
I guess that this is winbond .13mm process.
If you want to check what chip it is,the BIOS High voltage.
If it can ddr466 pr 480 2-3-2-5 in the 3.1c, this is winbond .13mm process.
Good luck as the same as the TWIMMOS.
If it is very strong,It maybe ddr500 2-3-2-5 or 2-2-2-5in the high voltage 3.1v.
rgards
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However I have tested 2-3-2-5 versus 2.5-2-2-5 in 3DMark, and 2.5-2-2-5 is faster. And the Ballistix ram is capable of around DDR500 here, at 2.8-2.9 volts, so it has the advantage - if you can get good sticks. True, it does not have headroom up high, though a pair of PC4000 Ballistix I recently bought did 273 at 2.5-3-3-5.
I have tested 270x10 @ 2.5-3-3-6 with TCCD, 247x11 @ 2-2-2-5 with BH-5, and 251x11, 2.5-2-2-5 with Ballistix. I'm not talking screenies, but 3DMark2000/2001/2003/2005/Aquamark. This is around 2700-2760 mhz on a S939 board (9NDA3+). In all the benchmarks, numbers are neck-and-neck. However the TCCD only needed 2.8 volts, while I needed 3.18 on the BH-5 and Ballistix*. In Everest latency I got 34.5 at 300x9, 166 divider, 2-2-2-5 with BH-5 (245 mhz on the ram).
Interestingly enough, an NF8 S754 board running a CO Clawhammer at 258x10, 2.5-2-3-5 (Ballistix PC3200), beat the S939 resoundingly in 3DMark2001/2000! That's the muscle of the 1MB L2 cache, single channel and all.
*This pair of Ballistix was poor at 2.5-2-2-5, managing 242 at 2.8. I have two sets that do 248 at 2.8 volts.
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It is true that not all TCCD will do 2-2-2-x. This quote from a recent Anandtech review of the newest Corsair does a good job of explaining why.
"What many may have forgotten along the way is that Samsung never really rated TCCD as a DDR400 memory chip. In the Samsung catalogs, TCCD was listed as a DDR500 part, and the higher costs also went along with Samsung's classification as DDR500. Most manufacturers binned (speed-sorted) the Samsung TCCD, and the parts that could do 2-2-2 at DDR400 went into the best memory. In fact, not all of the Samsung TCCD chips can do DDR400 2-2-2 timings, and some of the very best performers at very high DDR speeds simply will not do 2-2-2 timings at DDR400."
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http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312
"What many may have forgotten along the way is that Samsung never really rated TCCD as a DDR400 memory chip. In the Samsung catalogs, TCCD was listed as a DDR500 part, and the higher costs also went along with Samsung's classification as DDR500. Most manufacturers binned (speed-sorted) the Samsung TCCD, and the parts that could do 2-2-2 at DDR400 went into the best memory. In fact, not all of the Samsung TCCD chips can do DDR400 2-2-2 timings, and some of the very best performers at very high DDR speeds simply will not do 2-2-2 timings at DDR400."
Source:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312
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your memory isnt rated at 2-2-2-5 so y are u complaining and asking why??
u paid for 2-3-2-5 timings and thats what u got thats how i see it u should of paid abit extra to get G-Skill ram that can do DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 and DDR550 @ 2.5-4-4-8 or 2.5-3-3-7
u paid for 2-3-2-5 timings and thats what u got thats how i see it u should of paid abit extra to get G-Skill ram that can do DDR400 @ 2-2-2-5 and DDR550 @ 2.5-4-4-8 or 2.5-3-3-7
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