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Is this 3.0 good?
- Thread starter fhpchris
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L310, L312, and 3312 are the best steppings.
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Approaching 250fsb for a 3.0 is two thumbs up. 
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Technically, steppings and weeks mean absolutely nothing in terms of overclockability. People only know what steppings and weeks seem to overclock the best. This is because not every CPU from every stepping and week is overclocked, so it's impossible to know the best overall. Overclocking is unpredictable because a CPU from a popular stepping might overclock poorly, and likewise a CPU from an unpopular stepping might do very well.
Another factor is user error. A certain CPU might be capable of 3.3GHz on air-cooling, but if the user isn't a very knowledgeable overclocker, or one or more of his components are sub-standard, he may only reach 3GHz. This user then decides to go on a forum and write about his "crappy stepping that only reaches 3GHz," when the fact is that the CPU is capable of more. This is why no stepping will guarantee a good overclock, or indicate the speed you will get. Every CPU is different, so the only way to find out how far you can overclock is to try it and see.
Another factor is user error. A certain CPU might be capable of 3.3GHz on air-cooling, but if the user isn't a very knowledgeable overclocker, or one or more of his components are sub-standard, he may only reach 3GHz. This user then decides to go on a forum and write about his "crappy stepping that only reaches 3GHz," when the fact is that the CPU is capable of more. This is why no stepping will guarantee a good overclock, or indicate the speed you will get. Every CPU is different, so the only way to find out how far you can overclock is to try it and see.
That may be so in Intel's case, but in the AMD world, steppings and weeks quite definitely define a chips overclockability.
I'm very interested in buying an intel cpu and motherboard, and currently trying to figure out if intel steppings matter. I'm a bit shocked on how much everything costs though.
I'm very interested in buying an intel cpu and motherboard, and currently trying to figure out if intel steppings matter. I'm a bit shocked on how much everything costs though.
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Tyranos said:
No, it applies to both the P4 and AthlonXP.
Well, whatever you'd like to think. People who know what they're doing will continue to do so. He didn't ask you to get "technical" with your beliefs, he asked what stepping was the best. ie which one seems to overclock the best. I REALLy don't feel like arguing over something that has been proven to be very reliable anyway.
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While i agree with you Akira, i also agree with Tyranos that it differs in the AMD world! Certain steppings are consistently getting high overclocks. Also that article in Anandtech was about Intel processors, if you can find me one about AMD then i'll think to differ.
Even though i believe FPO/Batch does not mean a thing for the 'C' processors in the Intel world, I also have to say that i have never heard of L310,L311 Malays overclock bad. All I hear and read about is they're reaching 3.5+ghz. Those are the only batch i could say to look out for, any other FPO/Batch mean nothing.
A good example of this was I had a Philly 2.6C FPO/Batch 7319A193 struggling to do 3.2ghz at 1.6vcore. That died(long story), so I bought another. EXACT same stepping 7319A193, pack date etc. This one now does 3.3ghz easy at 1.55vcore and easily capable of 3.4 once i improve my cooling.
Even though i believe FPO/Batch does not mean a thing for the 'C' processors in the Intel world, I also have to say that i have never heard of L310,L311 Malays overclock bad. All I hear and read about is they're reaching 3.5+ghz. Those are the only batch i could say to look out for, any other FPO/Batch mean nothing.
A good example of this was I had a Philly 2.6C FPO/Batch 7319A193 struggling to do 3.2ghz at 1.6vcore. That died(long story), so I bought another. EXACT same stepping 7319A193, pack date etc. This one now does 3.3ghz easy at 1.55vcore and easily capable of 3.4 once i improve my cooling.
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Tyranos said:
These are not beliefs, these are undeniable facts. No stepping or s-Spec guarantees a good overclock. I suppose you think Malays are better than C. Ricas huh? Hopefully this article from AnandTech will help you understand the truth:
