Atom N270 vs. Atom 330?

I'm just wondering what is the difference between these two cpus? Not too knowledgeable with the atoms.

Ones a dual core (330) the other is a single Core (270)

Dont know much about the 330 but I have a 270 (which is single core 1.6 ghz) in my Asus EEEPC and it seems to handle anything I have try to run on that system thus far. I have XP SP3 on it and installed Adobe PS3 as well as Office 2007 and no issues. Very power efficient as well which gives me some serious battery life.

N270 is a higher binned 230, 230 has a TDP of 4watts the N270 has a TDP of 2.5watts. the other differences would be N270 has EIST and the 230 doesnt. the 230 does have EM64 though where the N270 doesnt.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB73 <--N270
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB6Z <--230

330 of course is a dual core as already pointed out and yes it still has HT. it still doesnt have EIST and still has EMT64. the Atom 330 is nothing more then two Atom 230 cores on one PCB. also i figure you might like pics nakie 230 and 330.

though i keep wishing intel would take two Z540 dies on one pcb.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB2M
a 1.86ghz 4.8watt TDP dual core atom

Be nice to see a WiFi option on someones desk top motherboard too

Evilsizer said:

though i keep wishing intel would take two Z540 dies on one pcb.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB2M
a 1.86ghz 4.8watt TDP dual core atom

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o man that would be sweet! or 2x z530 cores, paired with a poulsbo chipset popped in a netbook would make the ultimate netbook with longer batter life than the current 945chipset using ones.

Mr.DLucey said:

Be nice to see a WiFi option on someones desk top motherboard too

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Asus has them.

Evilsizer said:

N270 is a higher binned 230, 230 has a TDP of 4watts the N270 has a TDP of 2.5watts. the other differences would be N270 has EIST and the 230 doesnt. the 230 does have EM64 though where the N270 doesnt.

330 of course is a dual core as already pointed out and yes it still has HT. it still doesnt have EIST and still has EMT64. the Atom 330 is nothing more then two Atom 230 cores on one PCB.

though i keep wishing intel would take two Z540 dies on one pcb.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB2M
a 1.86ghz 4.8watt TDP dual core atom

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OK, you have my curiosity going... I understand what the 230, 270 (single dies) and 330 (2 dies, so its ~dual core) are, but what are the Z series??? Any chance these may come out in the near future on a mini PCB having DVI graphics output??? I mean, who buys CRTs?? thanks...

the Z5XX series is of a higher binned lower voltage variants of the 2XX series... The N270 is a higher binned lower voltage / TDP version of the 230 atom... using only 2.5w compared to the 230's 4w tdp.

BUT the same 1.6ghz clock on a Z530 only uses 2w tdp and the 1.86ghz Z540 uses 2.4w and the 330 being that its 2 230 atoms on one uses well 2x the power... 8w tdp.


What i would really like to see is netbooks to start using the poulsbo chipset... integrated gfx, memory controler, and ICH all in one 2w chip... north and sb put together... to bad max ram is 1gb.

doesn't the G45 use less power than the 945?

ou_phidelt said:

Asus has them.

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Sorry I just don't see them;

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3

Got a link by any chance?

Mr.DLucey said:

Sorry I just don't see them;

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3

Got a link by any chance?

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Here are some Asus WiFi Boards:

http://usa.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=wifi

Those are LGA775 mobos though I think there's some confusion because the question was simply 'Wifi mobos' but this is an Atom CPU thread so maybe Mr.DLucey was asking about Wifi Atom boards.

Just to be more OT, Zotac makes a few neat LGA775 mini-ITX mobos with Wifi, Wifi is 'onboard' but done through USB.

tgorczca said:

OK, you have my curiosity going... I understand what the 230, 270 (single dies) and 330 (2 dies, so its ~dual core) are, but what are the Z series??? Any chance these may come out in the near future on a mini PCB having DVI graphics output??? I mean, who buys CRTs?? thanks...

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ND4 coverd what i would have said. though i will add that only N2xx and Z5xx are ment for netbooks,lower power laptops. the regular Atom 230/Atom330 are ment for basic desktops or SSF desktops. you can find a few barebones Atom setups on newegg. one manufacture even uses a N2xx cpu instead of the traditional Atom 230.

VGA is also found many LCD's still, so there isnt much being lost. though a DVI or even HDMI would be nice. that would here agian as i point out below add to the cost of the mobo.

White_Pawn said:

doesn't the G45 use less power than the 945?

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it does but G45 costs more to manufacture then 945 does. which is why it is still being used for low cost/basic desktops. when it comes to the cost side of things you talking prolly another 25-40 on top of current retail for G45 based atom setup. that doesnt really fit with what Atom is ment for,IMO. Atom does have great promise when paired with the right chipset. actually the chipset i would rather see paired with atom is the PM45. it uses less power and has a much lower TDP then G45. I wll have to do some digging to find that side-intel site that listes chipsets and TDP's. for those that dont know a update has been made to the poulsbo chipset, it does now support 2gigs max. not sure what they did but a member at another forum pointed me to the poulsbo spec update PDF intel has posted. once i find the link that im looking for, you will see.

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the only atom setups i can find with build in GB LAN and wireless are these 2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220004

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ok i found what i was looking for
http://ark.intel.com/Default.aspx
http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=34469 <-- G45 no listed TDP
http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35515 <--PM45 7watt TDP
http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=35509 <--GM45 12watt TDP
http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=33421 <--GS45 12watt TDP

i thought the PM45 doesn't come with onboard graphics?

Anyone know if they have dualcore atoms for newbooks? Extra points for any with Z5xx series cpus.

edit: looks like intel is holding onto those Z cpus. Won't get dualcores until pineview.

MadMan007 said:

Those are LGA775 mobos though I think there's some confusion because the question was simply 'Wifi mobos' but this is an Atom CPU thread so maybe Mr.DLucey was asking about Wifi Atom boards.

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Yes that is correct ATOM boards with onboard WiFi.

Evilsizer, thanks, but I think those boards are useing the PCI slot for WiFi.

Since Wifi isn't part of any compatible chipset atm I don't think you're going to find one that doesn't use some form of expansion connection, the Wifi is going to be PCI, PCIe, or USB. Is there any certain reason why PCI or any other is bad?

MadMan007 said:

Since Wifi isn't part of any compatible chipset atm I don't think you're going to find one that doesn't use some form of expansion connection, the Wifi is going to be PCI, PCIe, or USB. Is there any certain reason why PCI or any other is bad?

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I was just looking to get a "all in one" type package when I brought the MB. Figured it would be slightly less expensive then the MB and a PCI WiFi card. Maybe they would build in a WiFi that didn't consume a lot of power.

Oh no comparable chip set, thats why I don't see one offered, even up coming and I have been looking.