Well, I received my 2x "Swiftech" MCP-350s (Laing DDC/Delphi) on Friday, unfortunately my 775 WB and new rad won't all be here til Tues. FYI, I wanted to try 2 of these as a replacement for my current MCP-600 pump since they are smaller, "square" (easier fitting/better looking mounted in the case?) and more quiet...even two of them.
The way I had things figured out was to run them in parallel, which no one seems to ever recommend doing with pumps. I was glad to see that Cathar added some data on them to this thread and I was most particularly interested in this post from the man himself:
So parallel seems like a fairly good deal in this case in terms of performance which pretty much cinches it for me. What I will run in this setup:
2x MCP350s
MCW-6000 CPU block
MCW-50 GPU block
MCW-20 Chipset block (still debating if I am going to put this back in the loop)
Swiftech res
BIP2 2x120mm rad. I currently have a Watercool HTF2 Dual, but it so thick (~2.25") and I am only running the 2x120s on it due to space constraints/noise issues, so I ordered the thinner rad operating under the assumption it will make better use of the air flow that I have AND free up some space in the case (CM ATC-111).
And one crazy idea (sleep deprivation induced I am sure!), probably not even worth the work/hassle, but I do have a lot of stuff laying around and was thinking of trying to squeeze in my BIM2. If it's dumb, just say so No comments on my cool diagram tho ...just thought it would definitely aid in explaining it!
I was wondering if there would be any benefit/harm to running the CPU/one pump on the BIP2 and the GPU (+ possibly NB) on the BIM2/2nd pump. They wouldn't quite be 2 separate loops since both would be returned to the separate ports on the Swiftech res. Note red/blue != hot/cold, but the separate loops to each rad/pump.
Basically one wye coming off the res out to feed both pumps and the 2 returns to the res being the 2nd "wye" themselves. I would think one pump would be enough for the CPU/BIP2 and the 2nd for the GPU/NB/BIM2, but with them mixed together like this at the res, I just dunno. Maybe the rads would need to be parallel to reduce restriction? I guess if that were the case, I wouldn't bother at all...just happen to a have BIM2 sitting here and started thinking. What do you think of this plumbing nightmare? Not worth the hassle? Sure would be interesting and something to look at
I plan to start off with a "normal" series WB loop, the pumps in parallel and just the BIP2, but if I get bored one day, who knows. Worth a shot or a total waste of time?
Some pics of the two Swiftech pumps (note the big "Delphi" cast on them):
The way I had things figured out was to run them in parallel, which no one seems to ever recommend doing with pumps. I was glad to see that Cathar added some data on them to this thread and I was most particularly interested in this post from the man himself:
A second DDC may well be a good idea, and given its characteristics it would generally be desirable to put them in parallel as you suggest. In-series would suit the incredibly high flow-resistance blocks (i.e. even the NexXxoS XP will only be borderling restrictive enough from a cursory examination of the curves to warrant an in-series setup).
In parallel at 12v, we are getting a curve that looks much like the MCP600 @ 13.8v, with heat dump being a little higher, but also slightly higher head. Haven't worked it out, but from a cursory glance it looks like using the [email protected] figures would be a very close estimate.
In parallel @ 13.2v, which is very easy to achieve even with a small DC-DC converter which can be bought for ~$30US or so, and the putting them in parallel looks something like the 2 x MCP600 @ 12v in series curve, but with more heat...
So parallel seems like a fairly good deal in this case in terms of performance which pretty much cinches it for me. What I will run in this setup:
2x MCP350s
MCW-6000 CPU block
MCW-50 GPU block
MCW-20 Chipset block (still debating if I am going to put this back in the loop)
Swiftech res
BIP2 2x120mm rad. I currently have a Watercool HTF2 Dual, but it so thick (~2.25") and I am only running the 2x120s on it due to space constraints/noise issues, so I ordered the thinner rad operating under the assumption it will make better use of the air flow that I have AND free up some space in the case (CM ATC-111).
And one crazy idea (sleep deprivation induced I am sure!), probably not even worth the work/hassle, but I do have a lot of stuff laying around and was thinking of trying to squeeze in my BIM2. If it's dumb, just say so No comments on my cool diagram tho ...just thought it would definitely aid in explaining it!
I was wondering if there would be any benefit/harm to running the CPU/one pump on the BIP2 and the GPU (+ possibly NB) on the BIM2/2nd pump. They wouldn't quite be 2 separate loops since both would be returned to the separate ports on the Swiftech res. Note red/blue != hot/cold, but the separate loops to each rad/pump.
Basically one wye coming off the res out to feed both pumps and the 2 returns to the res being the 2nd "wye" themselves. I would think one pump would be enough for the CPU/BIP2 and the 2nd for the GPU/NB/BIM2, but with them mixed together like this at the res, I just dunno. Maybe the rads would need to be parallel to reduce restriction? I guess if that were the case, I wouldn't bother at all...just happen to a have BIM2 sitting here and started thinking. What do you think of this plumbing nightmare? Not worth the hassle? Sure would be interesting and something to look at
I plan to start off with a "normal" series WB loop, the pumps in parallel and just the BIP2, but if I get bored one day, who knows. Worth a shot or a total waste of time?
Some pics of the two Swiftech pumps (note the big "Delphi" cast on them):