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greenmaji said:
well.. since they only have two server processors on that page it looks like they are not trying very hard to give out information for server processors.
Whats the deal with that? No wonder busniness have been moving to (insert other guys here).
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Yeah, its funny to, because back when I first joined, I was diggin through threads, and iirc people said that as of October 31st all the LV Xeons had been removed completely from everything, including spec finder, and only in a few database documents could you still find them. There server processor support is getting pretty weak imho.
 
Hehe, that's weird. Maybe you can just get the s-spec off the proc/box and Google for it. Chances are someone has the specs somewhere if Intel doesn't.

nik, thanks for fixing the title to avoid confusion ;)
 
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersio...p?WishListNumber=3175484&WishListTitle=Conroe

How does that setup look? I added the 551 in there because its basically the same prices as the E6600 is slated to be. I know the board atm does not support Conroe but I'm not buying now, just trying to get my pricing together.

Also I'm thinkgin I can pick up a graphic card from the classifieds that's a better deal than that.

So is $920 + shipping seem good? Do I have everything on that wish list? I will be putting my rig up for sale in 2-3 weeks, so I'm trying to nail down how much money a new rig is going to cost me.

Thanks for reviewing my wish list.
 
IMO you should be considering 2x1Gb of ram instead of 2x512Mb. I'm also planning to look at PC2 8000 unless there are some good overclocking sets of PC2 6400.

Otherwise your list looks good to me.
 
JLK03F150 said:
IMO you should be considering 2x1Gb of ram instead of 2x512Mb. I'm also planning to look at PC2 8000 unless there are some good overclocking sets of PC2 6400.

Otherwise your list looks good to me.
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2X1 gig is over my budget. I don't think I can come up with the extra $100 for it.
 
Now Conroe is out and I'm trying to figure out it for sure now.

My budget is $700 I've already got a Tuniq Tower 120, PSU, Case, DVD, Floppy, need SATA HD though, or I could just use my current 160 gig PATA drive.

I was thinking

E6400 $235
P5B- Deluxe $240
2 X 512 G.Skill $105
7600 GS $100

or


E6400 $235
DS3 $150
2 X 1 gig G.Skill $200
7600 GS $100


What do you recommened?

and Batboy, is it worth it to wait for abit? Are they really going to pull out a great overclocking board?
 
Shell, if you are looking at allendale's and like the p5b-d features, i would go with the 6300 if you want to max the folding bang for the buck.

On my p5b-d I am running my 6400 at 7 multi at 480 fsb getting about 5% better folding thoroughput than running 8x430. So a 6300 i assume would run 480 as well at its native multi.

The main issue with running the 7 multi and higher fsb is making sure your memory will run 960 at 1:1. I have heard there are dividers now/coming in the p5b-d bios but haven't tried them ... if they work ok then you might get away with slower mem. I would be suprised tho if all 800 rated mem wouldn't oc to 960 since both mobo's can supply up to 2.4v. I haven't tried the mem you are looking at so can't really comment on your choices. I have run crucial and teamgroup 800 rated mem on the p5b-d/6400 at 7x480 1:1 4-4-3-8 and 4-4-3-4 respectively.

I haven't played with the lowered multi on the ds3, but am guessing it might get similar results.

Personally, i like the p5b-d a lot more than the ds3 but for just folding, the ds3 is probably better value. However, if you are using the rig as your primary one as well as a folder, the p5b-d might be worth the extra $ to you.
 
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Is this Team ram the D9 stuff? If I get the P5b-d I can't really afford 2 gigs of ram at the moment.

Yes this will be my all in one rig, it will be my file server/apache webserver/folding/gaming/etc. I figuered an conroe should easly be able to handle all that right?

So an E6300 instead of an 6400.
 
When i posted before i had only tried the team 800 stuff rated at 4-4-4-10. I also have some of the 667 3-4-4-8 stuff in your link but had not tested it yet.

So i swapped out the 800 and put in the 667 in your link, at exactly same speed/timings
(480x2=960 1:1 4-4-3-8), ran orthos for a while and it is now folding away stable. :)

So i should have listened to tankguy's recomendation and saved the $ by going with the 667 since it seems to work just fine at this speed, at least on my sample of 1.

As to running all your stuff on the 1 rig, the only thing i have read is that the conroes/allendales seem to be more sensitive with some games while folding possibly due to the cache optimizations?
I am not a gamer, but by all accounts your gaming should still be much better.

I assume your file sharing/web server don't put much load on your rig so would not expect them to be impacted. Your current rig has 2 xeons which i assume have HT so your HT may have helped background serving stuff, but unless you have high volume i doubt they would be impacted much if at all. But this part is just my guess.

I haven't tried a tuniq but they are supposed to be better than the BT i am using. One thing i do get is higher temps - maybe 2C? folding at 480x7 vs 8x430 so make sure you have good airflow for the case. Also, the tuniq I assume doesn't direct air to the mobo so you may need to supplement yours for the heatpipe on the mosfets/NB. SB also gets warm on this mobo. You can always add some small fans to them later if you need to assuming there is some space with that tuniq.
 
Now i'm debating between the 1 gig of Team ram, or this G.Skill 2 gigs. I know the g.skill probably will not overclock as high, but is that worth it for the extra gig of ram?

Your right, I probably would be getting decreesed gaming performance from folding and would still think wow, this is so much better!

I'd say 80% of the time my web hosting is not used. I mainly jsut use it when I'm away, so I can put files up to download and etc.

Your right about the Tuniq, it blows air left and right instead of against or away from the motherboard. So I'll need to look into some extra fans/heatsinks.

Thanks a lot pscout, you are really helping me decide things here.
 
Shelnutt2 said:
Now i'm debating between the 1 gig of Team ram, or this G.Skill 2 gigs. I know the g.skill probably will not overclock as high, but is that worth it for the extra gig of ram?

Your right, I probably would be getting decreesed gaming performance from folding and would still think wow, this is so much better!

I'd say 80% of the time my web hosting is not used. I mainly jsut use it when I'm away, so I can put files up to download and etc.

Your right about the Tuniq, it blows air left and right instead of against or away from the motherboard. So I'll need to look into some extra fans/heatsinks.

Thanks a lot pscout, you are really helping me decide things here.
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get these patriot ram is ocing similair to the teamgroup 2gig kit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220095

have you thought about a BT for a HS?

dont think you linked to the right ram as its sodimm for laptop,err more like the range of mem at newegg. you didnt list the set your looking at.
 
Evilsizer said:
get these patriot ram is ocing similair to the teamgroup 2gig kit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220095

have you thought about a BT for a HS?

dont think you linked to the right ram as its sodimm for laptop,err more like the range of mem at newegg. you didnt list the set your looking at.
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Bookmarked the patriots. I like that price tag.

Well I got this Tuniq Tower for $45 shipped a while back, I couldn't pass up that deal. Isn't the Tuniq better than the BT, I mean CPU temp wise?
 
Shelnutt2 said:
Bookmarked the patriots. I like that price tag.

Well I got this Tuniq Tower for $45 shipped a while back, I couldn't pass up that deal. Isn't the Tuniq better than the BT, I mean CPU temp wise?
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it is but i was more suggesting it for the airflow going over the rest of the mobo instead of haveing to add more fans around the TT for cooling chipset and fets/pwm's. if you already have it then dont worry just add some fans, depending on your needs. If you are worried about noise i would suggest these 80mm fans 9.99 for 6. i bought some a while back and used a SLA 12v battier and ran all 6 could barly hear them at 6inch and couldnt at 1ft.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811999073
 
Gskill D9's
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101762
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231061
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231065

Evilsizer said:
get these patriot ram is ocing similair to the teamgroup 2gig kit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820220095

have you thought about a BT for a HS?

dont think you linked to the right ram as its sodimm for laptop,err more like the range of mem at newegg. you didnt list the set your looking at.
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I've yet to see any results that make them out to be D9's they were using Elpida IC's when last reviewd.

@Joeteck..Intresting dedictated GFX PSU, but it is kinda lacking in information about the PSU itself, like amps and rails (yea yea.. it only has 12V but is it single rail and 250 nor 300 is divisable by 12 ;) )

@op I don't know why people are still recomending the BT.. If you wanted a downward facing HS for performance, the SI-128 or for scilence+performance the Aerocool Domminator 140mm would be better choices.. With your TT you just need to watch out for your fet, NB and MEM temps closer and use fans and sinks more carefully.
 
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greenmaji said:
@Joeteck..Intresting dedictated GFX PSU, but it is kinda lacking in information about the PSU itself, like amps and rails (yea yea.. it only has 12V but is it single rail and 250 nor 300 is divisable by 12 ;) )
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it is indeed neat psu... and yes you can figure out its amps as 300watts divided by 12 is 25. where 25 is the peak amps now RMS amperage is 20.8 or 250watts/12v=20.8amps. figureing out voltage/amp/wattage is done by using PIE in electronics.
review of it here
http://www.bigbruin.com/2006/powerexpress_1
 
greenmaji said:
BTW.. eWiz is at it again but now with the P5B Deluxe
current price $213.50 free shipping
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-P5BDLX&c=pw
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hehe yea egg has it for 219 atm. unless it drops to below 200 i cant see buying it. the one im eyeing is the DFI 975x right now for sli. if i have to wait and the P5B-E has a nice 100-125 price tag ,then its the one im getting. ATM andre yang over at xs has a p5b-e @500fsb
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=114123
 
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