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Help dialing in this 6GHz 4930k / Pi / RIVBE / LN2 setup?

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funsoul

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Hi Folks!

Finally got around to playing with this 4930k. It was also my first, solo ln2 experience so probably could have done it better but am thrilled with the initial results. Now asking for your help in figuring out the next step....

Managed to pass spi1 at 6073GHz, passed spi32 at 5830GHz with 1.72v (in bios). Think it could do the same with 1.70v and perhaps slightly lower llc. Was able to get it to run with 54x multi stable, 55x would bsod with even a slight load. Ran with 113 bclk np. Didn't try the 125+ straps (incl. the presets) but months ago did get all the presets to work with the same cpu (under h2o). CB is around -177C, CBB is about -168. Ran a pair of gskill 2300 pis (from my prior tests) For the spi runs, I used the 2x2 psc 2400 tight preset.

The prior owner ran this chip with 55x multi and it definitely 'feels' like it's got more to give. Hoping to get some decent globals so would love to wring every last drop out of this thing. It may be a month before I get to go at this setup again but would love to hear thoughts on how to really get this system cranking as high as possible for more benchybenchy action! How can I get the 55x multi going (and maybe 56x?)? How to get the speed/stability up? Thoughts on approach to multi:bclk? Approach for ram speed and timings (and sub-timings), etc.?

Tia for any ideas/guidance!!

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For superpi find the strongest core, leave that one and one other on, no need for all 6c running.
 
Thanks Mike!

Good one...thanks for the reminder. In the heat (cold) of the moment, didn't even think about that. Planning to run the setup under water to get the ram dialed in, determine the stronger cores, etc.
 
Got some guidance from steponz (thanks dude!) but could definitely use help filling in the remaining blanks.

- Boot with 40x multi and 100.0 bclk. Make all upward adjustments from within windows.
- Enable the ln2 mode switch (I forgot all about that)
- Set VTT to 1.35
- Reduce PLL (to how much? Any ideas?)
- In the power controls section get rid of everything that's set to auto, make the following changes:
- Set highest value for all current capability settings
- Disable intel adaptive thermal monitoring
- Disable execute disable bit
- Disable virtualization

Good start but if any of you have other changes/settings/etc, please let me know. It'll be a few weeks before I get to bench this chip again...want to get the most possible out of it the next time I get to hit it with the juice.

Thanks!!!
 
Got a new chip! Running the 4930k under water and working to get the ram dialed in for some key 2D benches. Hope to take it cold in the next week or 2 and hope to get it dialed in quickly.

From another thread (and in addition to the above changes), will try lowering cpu pll to 1.65v-1.72v. Also set termination voltage manually to 1.45v.

So...have done a fair amount of ram testing lately on cinebench, gpupi4cpu, geekbench and xtu using psc (2400, 2600) and samsung (2700) but am now looking at how the prior owner ran the cpu (bclk/multi). The prior owner ran the cpu at 6.2-6.4GHz using bclk at 125 to 133 so am looking at the following ram speeds:
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In my 2d tests, psc at 2600, quad channel is generally the way to go (have not been able to get 2666 working and stable)....so, around 2600-2620 is the best I can get out of them. Samsungs will run from 2400-2730-ish.

So....time for more testing :( Looking at the bclk settings used by the prior owner, it's looking like psc, quad channel at 2333-2463 vs. samsung at 2666-2773 (not sure if they can make 2816). With the psc, should be able to run 7-11-7 vs. 9-12-12 on the samsung. Will try to figure things out a bit this evening.

Any thoughts/ideas on getting the max out of the cpu and/or ram? Figure this chip will take a number of cold sessions to actually complete the remaining 2D's.

UPDATE: Prior owner gave me the following info:
- No CB or CBB....this is a full pot chip
- "Don't go too wild on SA voltage and co"...am not sure what this really means. What should I shoot for for SA voltage? "and co"? Ideas??
 
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Alrighty then! :)

Had a good 2nd session with the chip and got my best globals ever so very excited! Only 2d that gave me major issues is XTU which I couldn't get to pass at even 5GHz (thinking this chip should be able to pass it around 5.9 or so). Relative to the other subs, my efficiency is horrific :( Most of my settings are still on auto/default so am pretty sure this thing's still got room to grow (plus prior owners got a little more speed than what I've hit so far).

Below are my current bios settings. Once I get into windows, I set vcore to 1.695v and adjust the multi and/or bclk upward.

Welcome any thoughts or ideas on how to get the most out of this setup!

A huge TIA for your replies!!!

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Some pr0n shots....(apologies for reposting this from another thread but figure this is decent info for here)

Setup after about 5 hours of ln2...minimal frost imho (and no frost anywhere except those 2 spots...nothing on the board or even shamwow). Thanks to everyone for helping me with the insulation technique!!! Also...something I recently learned, pointing the fans so they blow upward is the way to go.
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Most recent submissions:
Gpupi4cpu: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150085
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wprimes (will be running these again with different ram so will hopefully improve a bit):
wprime32: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150087
wprime1024: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150089
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cinebench 11.5: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150079
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hwbot prime: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150077
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geekbench:
single core: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150080
multicore: http://hwbot.org/submission/3150081
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