Help Me Decide On Which One pl0x

[Dapper Dan]

Hey guys, been out of the game for a while and I've never dabbled in water cooling, although it shouldn't be too hard, just need some help picking between these two computers. Thanks for all the help in advance.


First PC Listed at $1500 (firm)

Motherboard : Asus Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 LGA1366 3PCIE2 – SATAIII, USB3.0 Support, Overclockers Dream, http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=jy0uafxYBCrJwksC&templete=2 $389
Memory: O626-7 OCZ 6GB Kit (2GB x3) 7-7-7 DDR3 1600 OCZ3P1 $235
CPU: Intel Core i7 Quad 930 2.80GHz 8MB Cache 45NM LGA1 – Overclocked to 3.2 GHZ $290
CPU WaterBlock: HEATKILLER® CPU Rev3.0 1366 - Limited Edition Nickel/Chrome Plated Waterblock; HEATKILLER® Backplate $115
CPU Water-cooled: Swiftech MCR220Drive MCP355 pump Radbox Radiator/fan housing - Black $182
GPU: Xfx Radeon HD 5970 2GB DDR5 – Fastest Video Card on the Planet- : 2X DVI $680
GPU WaterBlock: Koolance WaterBlock - VID-AR597 (Radeon HD 5970) $139
GPU Radiator/Pumps/Reservoir :
-HW Labs Black Ice SR1 240 sr1-240 Carbon Black - Dual 120mm $79
-EK 5.25" Mountable DDC Dual Top V2.- Laing DDC / Swiftech MCP350/355 (EK-DDC Dual TOP V2 G1/4 - Black Acetal) - $66
-2xSwiftech MCP355™ 12v Water Pump (Native 3/8") (120 GPH) -$165
-EK-MultiOption 4 Port RES 100 Rev. 2 Liquid Cooling Reservoir $46
WaterCooling Control :
-2 x Coolant Temperature Sensor, Brass (SEN-AP005PB) $16
-1 x TMS-200 Software Thermal Interface Controller(TMS-200) $99
-1 x TMS-EB200 Expansion Board(TMS-EB200) $49
-2 x INS-FM17 Coolant Flow Meter & Adapter Board (INS-FM17) $29
-Liquid Dual Level Sensor, 70mm(SEN2-LVL70) $17.00
SSD 64GB Kinston Now SSDNow V Series $134
DiskDrives 2x WD VelociRaptor 10K Drives $400
PowerSupply 1000 Watts Silverstone Power Supply $130
CASE Coolmaster Cosmos CASE $180
DVD LG Blu-ray Disc Double-Layer DVD RW/CD-RW Drive $199
USB Expansion NZXT IU01 Internal USB Expansion / Power Supplement Board $24
OS Windows 7 Ultimate $319

Second PC Listed at $1700 OBO

Corsair 800D Case: $270
CPU: Core i7 920 @ 4.0Ghz (Stable): $260
Mainboard: eVGA X58 Classified : $350
Water cooling parts:
EK Supreme HF Classified Edition: $75
XSPC RX360 Triple Radiator: $90
XSPC dual bay reservoir: $50
Swiftech MCP355 pump: $65 + Primochill Tubing + 6x Bitspower Compression Fittings
Video card: Sapphire HD5970: $650
RAM: 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600: $210
Power supply: Corsair HX850W Modual: $170
Sound card: AuzenTech X-Fi Forte: $150
Intel X25-M 80GB SSD: $230
OCZ RAM cooler + AeroCool Touch 2000 Controller: $80

Now I've got a 1.5TB hdd so the space on the drives don't matter but how much faster is the X-25 from intel ... if any. Also I'm not getting that a 930 is only stable at 3.2Ghz on water on a rampage extreme III although I've heard the bios are not exactly the best they can be yet, usually I hear they hit 4.0Ghz easy like that 920 in the second rig. Also in the 2nd rig only the CPU is water cooled while in the 1st the CPU and GPU are water cooled.

Again , ANY, advice would be helpful, and I usually only build my own cpomputers from scratch but I don't thinkIi could get a PC with these specs for that price even if I bought used from OCF and [H]. Thanks again guys as always I really appreciate the help.

 

[psionic98]

Im am in no way a water cooling guru, but I believe that the WC setup in #1 is not adequate for the heat output of the card and the cpu if oc'd... otherwise its a pretty nice setup.

#2 seems like it may be a little overkill pricewise, but still a nice system. You do not need the TOP mobo to achieve 4.0ghz on either processor so 300+ for a board isn't necessary. You can buy an add-on card for the sata/usb speeds cheap. I'd be willing to bet you can put that together with used and/or new parts. Our forums have been selling WC stuff a LOT lately.

a 920 also shouldn't be costing you 260 when you can still get them in for sale forums for around the 200 mark. Just seems wherever these #s came from they are sort of bloated.

 

[Dapper Dan]

I just copy pasted from craigslist. I wouldn't pay over $1500 for the 2nd one, it's just listed at 1700 obo and it's been there a while. The prices were what the person who posted it thinks the stuff is worth retail. Sorry, should have posted that earlier. Thanks for the info on the water cooling stuff, kinda makes sense as #2 has a triple rad for just the cpu and #1 has a double rad for both CPU and GPU.