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- Oct 11, 2005
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- Tau'ri
Need help finiding supplies for an inexpensive overhaul of both house and PCs.
I used to install alarms and for running wires through walls we had 18" long drill bits (a 3" head on a semi flexible metal rod, head had a small hole in the tip so when it went through the floor we could hook a wire to it and pull it back up through) and these light fiberglass rods in 8' sections that we could srew together for snaking stuff through walls.
The house I live in is so old.. .that looking at the power lines running for the upstairs lights in the floor of the attic, there are 2 cloth covered lines running on seperate joists, on ceramic standoffs.
This is obviously unsat for computing. Fortunately the downstairs has been rewired.. and when the roof was rebuilt a few years ago.. .the workers kicked in hte top half of the old kitchen chimney. So I bought 100' extension cords ripped out some of the ceiling run the cords up into the attic, down through the old chimeny out hte ash chute and from their into real 3 prong outlets...(going to be replacing the ceiling in this room was a plaster ceiling that was failling apart. Drop ceiling was put in and i guess people fell through it. I couldnt take it drop ceiling is gone. im going to be ripping it all out and want to do a nice tongue in groove stained oak ceiling but recess a 4' flourescent worklamp in it overkill for a bedroom though so gotta rethingk that. (my bedrooms are also workrooms so its great for now...)
also have etherent running through the unused chimney (I hate wireless internet)
What I would like to do is remove that old dangerous wiring and install real grounded elerctrical wiring through out the house. But i do not have the tools. I am going to wire the upstairs... bring it down to a second elec box and hire a pro to move power to it.
Also im looking at a multi user station (link to be added) so I am interested in making my own USB, VGA and ethernet cables and any assistance would be great for this. I read up on using shielded E5 cable to make VGA cables.. but do not know how well it works over a distance of 100', not important now... but imporant in the furture, or how well it works at all for that matter. So im thinking a massive wall mounted panel behind the main unit 5 or 6 units.. with one unit to each room in the house.. (say one VGA one audio and one USB to each room probably throw in ehterhent even though I wont be needing it)
If i cant make USB then a drill bit large enough to easily pass through USB also recommendations on distance/power loss also for VGA, not worried about E5 im well short of the requirements there.
Secondly.. .I ma looking at completley rewiring my PC cases. An idea I have had for a LONG time (initially included PCBS that functioned as line cleaners, but from what I understand thats not feasible) instead the function now is purely for aesthetics.
Building a wiring harness within a PC case.. 90degree ATX connectors hidden AUX lines. Sata power connectors for hdd that are measured to fit in the drive cage that comes with htecase... etc.
Then i can either leave the mass of wires of the PSU bundled up nicely in the bottom of hte case and connect everything... or go so far as to shorten the wires to a few inches...
Secondary benenfit. Sleeving of ATX cables always leaves a few inches of unsleeved cable right where its visible. So.. .im thinking either sleeve it right down to the connector in smaller units (for instance 4 wires sleeved so 6 sleeves leads to 3 sleeves leads to one big sleeve.. or.. use all black wiring so its subtle...)
Tips and suggestions please
Needs:
Decent soldering iron with easily swappable tips . One miniscule for Micro work one large for say.. .desoldering hte PSU main rails...
Decent DMM I think Radio shack has a half decent one for 40 ish. Manuals on proper usage would be great too.. I know how to use it but dont "understand" it. For those that grok, there is a big difference between knowing and understanding
Wire (ethernet, VGA and usb if its doable)
Connectors
Outlet style wall plates for PC things.
Wire snakes.
Drill bits. (Prolly just a decent 3/4 18" bit, unless I cant build my own usb cables...)
Other tools required (crimpers etc)
PC wiring conectors. Sleeving etc. Looking for a decent supplier not a "one little bag of stuff for 10 bucks" but a bag of each thing (sata M/F replacements. 90deg atx aux male and female molex male and female... all black wiring of a decent enough gauge, tools, and sleeving/heatshrink etc)
Thanks
(need to point out... im not going to be doing any of this professionally so spending 200 bucks on wall snakes or 250 on a good soldering station is not an option...)
I used to install alarms and for running wires through walls we had 18" long drill bits (a 3" head on a semi flexible metal rod, head had a small hole in the tip so when it went through the floor we could hook a wire to it and pull it back up through) and these light fiberglass rods in 8' sections that we could srew together for snaking stuff through walls.
The house I live in is so old.. .that looking at the power lines running for the upstairs lights in the floor of the attic, there are 2 cloth covered lines running on seperate joists, on ceramic standoffs.
This is obviously unsat for computing. Fortunately the downstairs has been rewired.. and when the roof was rebuilt a few years ago.. .the workers kicked in hte top half of the old kitchen chimney. So I bought 100' extension cords ripped out some of the ceiling run the cords up into the attic, down through the old chimeny out hte ash chute and from their into real 3 prong outlets...(going to be replacing the ceiling in this room was a plaster ceiling that was failling apart. Drop ceiling was put in and i guess people fell through it. I couldnt take it drop ceiling is gone. im going to be ripping it all out and want to do a nice tongue in groove stained oak ceiling but recess a 4' flourescent worklamp in it overkill for a bedroom though so gotta rethingk that. (my bedrooms are also workrooms so its great for now...)
also have etherent running through the unused chimney (I hate wireless internet)
What I would like to do is remove that old dangerous wiring and install real grounded elerctrical wiring through out the house. But i do not have the tools. I am going to wire the upstairs... bring it down to a second elec box and hire a pro to move power to it.
Also im looking at a multi user station (link to be added) so I am interested in making my own USB, VGA and ethernet cables and any assistance would be great for this. I read up on using shielded E5 cable to make VGA cables.. but do not know how well it works over a distance of 100', not important now... but imporant in the furture, or how well it works at all for that matter. So im thinking a massive wall mounted panel behind the main unit 5 or 6 units.. with one unit to each room in the house.. (say one VGA one audio and one USB to each room probably throw in ehterhent even though I wont be needing it)
If i cant make USB then a drill bit large enough to easily pass through USB also recommendations on distance/power loss also for VGA, not worried about E5 im well short of the requirements there.
Secondly.. .I ma looking at completley rewiring my PC cases. An idea I have had for a LONG time (initially included PCBS that functioned as line cleaners, but from what I understand thats not feasible) instead the function now is purely for aesthetics.
Building a wiring harness within a PC case.. 90degree ATX connectors hidden AUX lines. Sata power connectors for hdd that are measured to fit in the drive cage that comes with htecase... etc.
Then i can either leave the mass of wires of the PSU bundled up nicely in the bottom of hte case and connect everything... or go so far as to shorten the wires to a few inches...
Secondary benenfit. Sleeving of ATX cables always leaves a few inches of unsleeved cable right where its visible. So.. .im thinking either sleeve it right down to the connector in smaller units (for instance 4 wires sleeved so 6 sleeves leads to 3 sleeves leads to one big sleeve.. or.. use all black wiring so its subtle...)
Tips and suggestions please
Needs:
Decent soldering iron with easily swappable tips . One miniscule for Micro work one large for say.. .desoldering hte PSU main rails...
Decent DMM I think Radio shack has a half decent one for 40 ish. Manuals on proper usage would be great too.. I know how to use it but dont "understand" it. For those that grok, there is a big difference between knowing and understanding
Wire (ethernet, VGA and usb if its doable)
Connectors
Outlet style wall plates for PC things.
Wire snakes.
Drill bits. (Prolly just a decent 3/4 18" bit, unless I cant build my own usb cables...)
Other tools required (crimpers etc)
PC wiring conectors. Sleeving etc. Looking for a decent supplier not a "one little bag of stuff for 10 bucks" but a bag of each thing (sata M/F replacements. 90deg atx aux male and female molex male and female... all black wiring of a decent enough gauge, tools, and sleeving/heatshrink etc)
Thanks
(need to point out... im not going to be doing any of this professionally so spending 200 bucks on wall snakes or 250 on a good soldering station is not an option...)