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MSI Z87-G43 GAMING
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Well Im looking for a decent OC board for about the $120-150 price point, would you suggest something that doesn't have as many issues?
What issues? I am curious.
To OP: At a high level, I don't see anything wrong with this offering. Looks like 6 phases for power, either 4+2 or 5+1 (CPU/mem). They have heatsinks on them. No idea what is below them, but, it will(should) easily handle any overclock on air/water you can throw at it (4.3-4.7Ghz).
Understand that, since Sandybridge (think P67/I7 2600K), motherboards really have not been nearly as big a factor in overclocking as was in the previous generations. Unlocked multi's and very limited BCLK adjustments are that cause, more or less. For a decent overclocking board, a few, heatsinked power phases are all that most people really need and the G43 provides that.
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Same here, I have head of the regular Z87-G43 having problems but not specifically the "Gaming" versions.
To OP: At a high level, I don't see anything wrong with this offering. Looks like 6 phases for power, either 4+2 or 5+1 (CPU/mem). They have heatsinks on them. No idea what is below them, but, it will(should) easily handle any overclock on air/water you can throw at it (4.3-4.7Ghz).
I believe it has been stated to have 4+2. I am looking for 4.6-5.0 if possible, I may end up trading this out for a different version later on if it is unachievable. Ill probably wait to trade out when 1150 is phased out and get a good deal on 1 if i do that.
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I saw that when I went to quote you lol, as for deliding... Ill hold off on that for the initial build, but when it comes time I want to try and squeeze some more juice out it is definitely something I'm considering. 4.6 is the minimum Im looking at OCing to with this. When I revamp for the water setup I will have more than enough cooling to push 5.0Ghz.
Oh and this is the first Intel build I have done since a 775 Celeron(NOT BY MY CHOICE!)
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Yeah it makes looking for reviews quite irritating!
The reason im looking at this is because of this: Newegg Deal Just at a start up, will be upgrading to 16GB later.
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That is what you think...
I have a PA120.2 and MCR320 cooling ONLY my CPU which is a good one, well, above average at least (was great before I degraded it, LOL!). I need 1.49v to be 'stable' at 4.9Ghz. And my temps, without delidding, are at the max (and this is in a 20-21C room with my fans cranked). No way I would run over 1.4-1.45v 24/7 if I planned on keeping my CPU like you did your last one.
You will need a good chip, and likely have to delid it to reach that goal. Im a betting man and wouldn't bet on your 5Ghz goal...though it is possible, just not likely.
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That is what you think...
I have a PA120.2 and MCR320 cooling ONLY my CPU which is a good one, well, above average at least (was great before I degraded it, LOL!). I need 1.49v to be 'stable' at 4.9Ghz. And my temps, without delidding, are at the max (and this is in a 20-21C room with my fans cranked). No way I would run over 1.4-1.45v 24/7 if I planned on keeping my CPU like you did your last one.
You will need a good chip, and likely have to delid it to reach that goal. Im a betting man and wouldn't bet on your 5Ghz goal...though it is possible, just not likely.
Well I am looking at 420mm Alphacool NexXxos UT30/UT60 and 280mm Alphacool NexXxos Monsta Radiators for my initial build. I have no accurate way to diagnose my current ambient temp however the current GPU i have with aftermarket AIR cooling hovers around 20C idle, which leads me to believe my ambient is around 15-20C max. So I doubt cooling will be much of an issue. The CPU lottery however is another story all together lol
And my last one? Honestly if your referring to the celeron, all I did was assemble the thing and handed it off to its owner. I honestly have no clue what its Freq. or voltage was lol
You like your room cold I guess... 15C is a cold room (59F. Typical house is 70-72F/~22C). Most GPUs I have idle almost 10C more than ambient...(open air/benching station).
Yeah, you have a bit more rad than me, however, the raddage isn't really the main issue. Its getting the heat out of the chip. You will more than likely NEED to delid. I would check the voltage on the CPU first. If you need more than 1.45v for 5Ghz, I would say you lost the lottery and do not delid.
What I meant by 'like your old chip' was simply meant how long you kept it. You are rolling the dice rocking 1.45v+ 24/7 with ambient cooling.
Yeah, you have a bit more rad than me, however, the raddage isn't really the main issue. Its getting the heat out of the chip. You will more than likely NEED to delid. I would check the voltage on the CPU first. If you need more than 1.45v for 5Ghz, I would say you lost the lottery and do not delid.
What I meant by 'like your old chip' was simply meant how long you kept it. You are rolling the dice rocking 1.45v+ 24/7 with ambient cooling.
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I see what you mean, as for the 5Ghz question, hopefully I will be able to get a good chip that requires less voltage, i mean the current CPU I'm using likes 1.3-1.4v then again its amd and they love heat lol
Anyhow back on topic, considering the g45/g65 of the gaming series tend to produce similar results as $200+ motherboards for a much lower cost, I would say the G43 is basically a step or 2 below either and their higher cost competition. From what I can discern is the voltage regulation(coupled with a good PSU) is quite high on this series of boards as they seem to not push as many watts as others in similar categories. Also, I just noticed there's actually 7 SFC's not sure of the 1 in between the 2 heatsinks is apart of the other 6?
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Not sure on that either. Perhaps 5+2 in that case? Regardless, your limit will be heat or voltage on the CPU, not the board.
Well its pretty much always been that way hasnt it? I mean back in the day I got a 3600+ that loved to do 3.5Ghz(1.9Ghz stock) without voltage increases, I miss that chip
Prior to Sandybridge on Intel (think s1156, s1366, and s775) no. The board had a strong possibility to be the weak link because of FSB clocking.
Not sure on AMD. I haven't seen one of those since my Opty 180 back in the day when they smoked Intel.
Not sure on AMD. I haven't seen one of those since my Opty 180 back in the day when they smoked Intel.
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