Need to upgrade my mobo

[Mad Bomber]

I have a EVGA 780 board with a Q6600. I have a EVGA 295 red And it is overclocked of coarse (kinda old)
I need a work station to edit videos. I saw the Asus W/S 299 that will also work well to overclock and the 2066 chip also need a new card the maybe a 260 KO or a 270 or 280. Any comments would be appreciated. I do have a full sized case too

 

[trents]

What is your budget? It's not clear to me if you're wanting to go truly modern in your upgrade such as replacing board, CPU, memory and video card or just one or two components. All of the components you currently list are very, very old and to just upgrade one or two items ain't going to make much difference. Are you video editing professionally or just for home and personal use?

 

[Mad Bomber]

1 or 2K price but if more is needed we will my power supply is a Corsair 1k and a Cosmos Cooler Master case with lots of fans that really suck it's not for professional, but the one I have just dies when I try to edit a video. Don't know if I want something on the cutting edge. I do want one I can "BOMB" (Better Off Modified Baby) also a new hard drive and memory. Also how about some SSD's. I have to keep down under the radar of my wife LOL.

 

[trents]

That's a generous budget so shouldn't be difficult to come up with a parts list that will build you a machine way better than what you have now.

I certainly would not carry over your current PSU if it's as old as the rest of the rig. Don't have time now but will try to recommend some things later on. My only other input at this time would be to definitely look at the AMD Ryzen 2 platform because of it's emphasis on many cores and good price point. The kind of work you will be doing will benefit from many cores/threads.

 

[Mad Bomber]

I know nothing about AMD. It's a AX 1200 gold series. The 1st available dat was 2013 with a 7 year warranty

 

[trents]

The PSU is six to seven years old. If it was me, I'd replace it.

The AMD Ryzen 2 is a CPU family. I was not referring to the PSU at that point.

 

[trents]

Motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-plus/p/N82E16813144262 ............................................................................................................................................................................. $168.98

CPU: https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-...n_3700x-_-19-113-567-_-Product&quicklink=true ............................................................$309.99

RAM: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?&quicklink=true ...........................................................................................................................................................$194.99

Cooler: You might get by with the stock cooler that ships with the CPU but even better would be something like this: https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-celsius-s36-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835352064 ......$131.99

PSU: https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-750-g3-220-g3-0750-x1-750w/p/N82E16817438093 ................................................................................................................................................................................$139.99

1TB SATA PCie NVME: https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-1tb/p/N82E16820147691 ..........................................................................................................................................................................$169.99

Video Card: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-...us-xs-6g-oc/p/N82E16814137400?&quicklink=true ............................................................................................................................$209.99

Total: ..........................................$1325.92 plus tax.

If you can spend more, consider upgrading t he CPU to t he 3900x: https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?&quicklink=true ....................................................................$484.99

 

[Mad Bomber]

What would you do with a intel set up?

 

[trents]

If you are asking what I would do with the old machine I would create a second, generic account and then I would wipe your account and give the old machine to a local charity.

Or, are you asking for component suggestions for a new Intel build?

 

[Mad Bomber]

Something new with the intel.im a little scared to use liquid how often does it leak? What about condensation?

 

[freakdiablo]

The AIO units are pretty well sealed, little chance of leaking. Also, since they won't drop below the ambient temperature (they only use radiators) the risk of condensation is the same as an air cooler - as in, there isn't any.

 

[trents]

Mad Bomber, why are you reluctant to go with AMD? Most people on this forum are agreed that for your stated use, AMD Ryzen is a better choice. The Intel 9900KF would be the closest competitor performance wise but goes for $200 more than the Ryzen 3700X.

Leaks with AIO liquid cooling are actually pretty unusual.

 

[Mad Bomber]

I just am completely blind to what AMD is and how it works compared to Intel. Is there a better motherboard made by AMD. I'd be willing to go up on price to get bells and whistles (more bombing is better). I would go with higher priced CPU and more memory. What hard drives would work well with this? More PCIE slots would be better

 

[trents]

AMD doesn't make motherboards but their partners such as Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock manufacture motherboards that run AMD CPUs. Intel doesn't make motherboards, either. Not anymore.

Yes, there certainly are higher end socket AM4 motherboards that run the new AMD CPUs than the one I initially listed for you . . . ones that have all the bells and whistles as you say. But what bells and whistles do you want? And do you intend to overclock?

Here's a nice one: https://www.newegg.com/msi-meg-x570-ace/p/N82E16813144259. But t's probably not necessary to spend that much money on a motherboard unless you are overclocking the CPU. Other than that, choose a board based on the features you want, your "bells and whistles." Basically, you are looking for a socket AM4 motherboard with the X570 chispset.

Hard drives? I thought you were wanting to use SSD storage. All hard drives and all SSDs are platform independent. The latest and fastest drive technology is PCIe 4.0x4 NVMe SSD. Take your pick: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100011693 601193224 601342076

 

[EarthDog]

Bomber - get the features you need with the look you want at your price point.

If it was me, I'd replace it.

You'd replace a psu still under warranty? I wouldnt make this a priority...but something to know in the next few years. It's also massive overkill so even at 50% output (which gain, sure it is still 100%), it would be fine (yes, ripple, etc, but I think you see my point).

 

[Mad Bomber]

I was just saying the AMD, INTEL just generic names. What I was asking was what brand is generally better built? Lots of sata, high speed gig speed, M2's, lots of PCI's, very overclockable, room for a lot of memory, the higher end chip. Up to 400.00 for the board. Good software with it.

 

[EarthDog]

1. They all have solidly built motherboards (especially in your price range)
2. They all have at least 6 SATA ports (how many do you want/need?)
3. All have at least one Gigabit wired network port. Some two.. some have 5/10GB
4. All have M.2 slots as well (how many do you need?)
5. PCIe (PCI is a bit dated ) slots... how many do you want and need? Typically boards come with at least two 16x/full-length slots. Do you plan on using SLI/CFx?
6. 'room' for memory is the same as well. 4 slots in both AMD and Intel motherboards, support up to 128GB. Are you going to need more than 64GB anyway? 16GB is the sweetspot with 32GB plenty for a few years...depends on how you use this machine though.

 

[trents]

Bomber, PCI has been superseded by PCIe. Modern motherboards no longer have PCI slots. The PCIe m.2 format is slowly replacing the old SATA port technology as far as storage interfaces go. However, all current motherboards will have SATA ports and it will be around for sometime. The SATA interface has limited bandwidth compared to the PCIe bus and that is why the PCIe m.2 SSD drives are noticeably faster. But not all PCIe m.2 SSD drives are created equal. Read on.

With the Ryzen 2 generation of CPUs (and the x570 chipset), AMD has brought the technology world into PCIe generation 4. The first PCIe SSD drives used PCIe 3.0. The newest m.2 PCIe SSD drives can use the PCIe 4 technology and do benefit from it in their performance. So we now have moved from m.2 PCIe 3x4 to m.2 PCIe 4x4. At this point PCIe gen 4 makes the most difference in storage performance as opposed to video card performance. Currently, there aren't any GPUs which really benefit from the extra lanes and bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 as they aren't yet saturating the PCIe 3 bus.

 

[EarthDog]

For additional clarification, M.2 is the connector (and there are different types, but we won't get into that!). There are PCIe/NVMe based drives (limited to PCIe and/or drive speed), and SATA based M.2 drives (limited to SATA speeds).

 

[Mad Bomber]

Well I went with a Gigabite X570 Master, Ryzen 3900,4 sticks of GSkills 16 gig X4 DDR4 3600CL16 1.35V, Samsung 970Evo Plus 1terabyte. So far that's all not sure if RX5700X OR 2070 and hard drives still needed. More of your thoughts would be appreciated.