but bill gates still has to give apple money so they don't die out, cause if apple dies, Microsoft becomes a monopoly, and then they die =P
anyway, i stll would get a zen (hell, even a zen touch, the iPod ripoff) just cause it can hold all of my music (i got well over the 6GB of a mini-iPod)... i got like 10GB of music, and then the leftover space on a 40GB zen xtra (my brother has one) i could use to backup computer stuff... plus the zen xtra lasts a looong time.... i dunno if apple fixed it or not, but their ipods battery used to die 18 months after purchase... and to replace it, you need to pay some $150-$225 to replace it... so you might as well get a new ipod...
STILL, i dunno if apple fixed it... ipods are cool lookin an all, but i like the silver of my brothers zen =P.... and the storage space