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OC550's ultimate winchester thread, wish me overclocking luck!

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Overclocker550 said:
well I bought the GA-K8NSNXP-939 nForce3 Ultra Motherboard for $110. Those go for almost $200 new so I recon I got a great deal. I hope this has less issues than the msi counterpart. I am aware of issues such as you gotta set agp to 67 in order to also lock the pci. another issue is you must set the fsb to 201 first in order to get past 245fsb and if you shut down, it wont cold boot past 245, gotta default it back to 200, manually set to 201 then you can set it up to the 300 the bios supports. max cpu volts is 1.7, max vdimm is 2.7 I think. at least it can overvolt the cpu way more than the 10% the msi has. stock is 1.3v so 10% more is only 1.43. well so far I spent $270 for winchester and mobo excluding shipping, this makes it about a $50 upgrade from my newcastle if you include shipping in. not bad at all!!!!!!
There's a bios for the MSI that lets you overvolt more than one would want to. I think it's 30% or even more!
 
not bad. does anyone know what dividers the gigabyte board has and how does it divide at 8x multi, 9x? what vdimm volts does it go to
 
It makes it a $275 upgrade over youre newcastle unless you sold you newcastle and only paid $50 more to buy the winchester, Btw the thread title sucks
 
actually its a free upgrade if s939 mobos werent so expensive. the $50 is cause thats how much more s939 is over s754 that I paid. Yes I sold my 3200+ newcastle and mobo. all I need is 2.3GHz on the winchester to match what my 2.6GHz newcastle was doing :D
 
Hmm all you need is 2.3Ghz to match a 2.6 Newcastle (754 of course)??? So that would mean the Winchester is 13% better than the 754 Newcastle. I dont think so! Either your maths sucks or your head is in the clouds (or somewhere much darker and smellier.....)
Try around 5% better. Meaning you need about to 2.475Ghz.
Edit even that might be overly optimistic...
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=printpage&artid=63

Check out the 3DM01 figures and gaming figures above. Although some of the figures seem somewhat screwed up it certainly would not seem that 13% is realistic - all websites I have seen point to approx 5% improvement for 939 Winchester over 130nm 754 Newcastle.
 
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OC Detective said:
Hmm all you need is 2.3Ghz to match a 2.6 Newcastle (754 of course)??? So that would mean the Winchester is 13% better than the 754 Newcastle. I dont think so! Either your maths sucks or your head is in the clouds (or somewhere much darker and smellier.....)
Try around 5% better. Meaning you need about to 2.475Ghz.

Amen to that. OC550's claim to fame is making unsubstantiated predictions and claims - none of which he is ever able to back up.

So, let's see it.
 
ok I will see how this winchester stacks up to my newcastle. remember my timings are 2.5-3-3-7 so I will need to compare it to my old scores back before I had bh5. actually I can do another run with this newcastle and relax the timings to 2.5-3-3-7, what shall I set the cpu to? 200x9? I can also set it to 300x7 for 2.1GHz and run the ram async so itll be 200MHz. thus both rams will run 200fsb at 2.5-3-3-7 except winchester at 200x9, newcastle at 300x7 difference=300MHz
 
you tell me what settings you want my newcastle to run. I can do 200x10 for 2GHz and see how far ahead my 200x9 winchester is
 
my 238x11 score is already up from a while ago=20870 I shall do the other clocks. just those 3 clocks are of interest? 200x9 is all ill be able to do with winchester without raising the fsb
 
w00t my winchester just came!
ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBGD 0439VPCW
1095969J40025

can anyone dichapter this? What does ADA mean? I know 3000 means mine runs 1.8GHz. the 4BI might mean I have 512k cache, I hear FX have a 5 instead?
again what does CBBGD mean? winchester I hope! 0439 might mean my cpu is a very low number out of 9999, supposedly the lower, the better it ocs :) the last digit of 25 may mean the week it was made. Thats about halfway thru the year 2004. Probably made in June which is 5 months ago. Hope this isnt too bad. Can anyone confirm its a winchester and explain how you know? I dont see 90nm or winchester written anywhere outside the box and I am not gonna open it till I am positive. If its a newcastle I am returning it pronto! How good is my stepping? good enough for 2.7GHz? 3GHz?
 
to me it tells me your CPU is a 3000+ OEM date of 0439 so it was made in week 39 of 04. which is just 2 weeks above mine.

I doubt you could hit 3ghz. Let alone 2.7.
 
Well if it says it is a socket 939 then you should automaticly know it is a winchester considering they are the only S939 3000-3200 out there.
 
Overclocker550 said:
w00t my winchester just came!
ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBGD 0439VPCW
1095969J40025

can anyone dichapter this? What does ADA mean? I know 3000 means mine runs 1.8GHz. the 4BI might mean I have 512k cache, I hear FX have a 5 instead?
again what does CBBGD mean? winchester I hope! 0439 might mean my cpu is a very low number out of 9999, supposedly the lower, the better it ocs :) the last digit of 25 may mean the week it was made. Thats about halfway thru the year 2004. Probably made in June which is 5 months ago. Hope this isnt too bad. Can anyone confirm its a winchester and explain how you know? I dont see 90nm or winchester written anywhere outside the box and I am not gonna open it till I am positive. If its a newcastle I am returning it pronto! How good is my stepping? good enough for 2.7GHz? 3GHz?

Guess you ignored one of the posts I made earlier in this thread. There is no such thing as a 3000+ 939 Newcastle. Period.

Again, 0439 means the week it was made.

By the way, the word you're looking for is 'decipher,' not 'dechapter.'
 
Osirus said:
to me it tells me your CPU is a 3000+ OEM date of 0439 so it was made in week 39 of 04. which is just 2 weeks above mine.

I doubt you could hit 3ghz. Let alone 2.7.


umm yours did 2.7GHz at 1.55v and mines newer and has better stepping than you. I would be really unlucky if I didnt do 2.7GHz 100% stable. by the way, there ARE 3000+ and 3200+ newcastles for s939 since last month, you need to be updated on amd's roadmap.
 
Overclocker550 said:
w00t my winchester just came!
ADA3000DIK4BI
CBBGD 0439VPCW
1095969J40025

can anyone dichapter this? What does ADA mean? I know 3000 means mine runs 1.8GHz. the 4BI might mean I have 512k cache, I hear FX have a 5 instead?
again what does CBBGD mean? winchester I hope! 0439 might mean my cpu is a very low number out of 9999, supposedly the lower, the better it ocs :) the last digit of 25 may mean the week it was made. Thats about halfway thru the year 2004. Probably made in June which is 5 months ago. Hope this isnt too bad. Can anyone confirm its a winchester and explain how you know? I dont see 90nm or winchester written anywhere outside the box and I am not gonna open it till I am positive. If its a newcastle I am returning it pronto! How good is my stepping? good enough for 2.7GHz? 3GHz?

How to read A64 part number for 940, 754, 939 (post 26)

Revisions and steppings

How to identify the physical core of an A64 (post 86)

940, 754, 939 CPU models and specifications (post 5)

E.g.
All these can be seen on the CPU:
ADA3200DIK4BI
CBBGD 0439VPCW

ADA - desktop
3200 - PR rating which translates into 2000 MHz from 939 3200+ spec
D - 939 socket
I - 1.4 V
K - case temperature rating 65 C ?
4 - L2 cache size of 512 KB
BI - revision D0 (DH8 D0 rev, 00010FF0h)

CBBGD - stepping code (later week >= 39 ?)
0439 - week of 39, year 2004

VPCW -
First letter represents the day of week manufactured.
R for first day of week
S for second day of week
...
X for last day of week
M for combined lots.
Second letter is for assembly location.
Third letter is for wafer lot sequency of the day. A - Z, with M for combined lots.
Fourth letter, nothing or W which designates combining wafer lots is prohibited.
 
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