RAM works. Not sure about slots.

[Jerome Bettis]

Hey thanks for the BIOS update notice Shadow...So I updated BIOS to 1013.


Program: eSupport.com BIOS Agent Version 3.61
BIOS Date: 04/07/06
BIOS Type: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
BIOS ID: 04/07/2006-NF-CK804-A8N-E
OEM Sign-On: ASUS A8N-E ACPI BIOS Revision 1013
Chipset: AMD 1100 rev 0
Superio: ITE 8712F rev 7 found at port 2Eh
OS: WinXP SP2
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 2000 Mhz MAX: 3700 Mhz
BIOS ROM In Socket: Yes
BIOS ROM Size: 512K
Memory Installed: 1024 MB
Memory Maximum: 4096 MB
Memory Slot 01: 512 MB
Memory Slot 02: 512 MB
Memory Slot 03: 0 MB
Memory Slot 04: 0 MB
ACPI Revision: 1.0


I still have the beep error but here are my new screen shots. Tell me what timings, voltage and any other settings you suggest and I will try them.

 

[Jerome Bettis]

Report from Sandra.

Think I finally found the problem. Tell me what you think. I just visited OCZ and took a look at my RAM specs.
My RAM is unbuffered. Sandra gives this warning message in its report. Do you think that has anything to do with my problem?

Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.

OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 / 400MHz / Platinum / Revision 2 / Dual Channel

400MHz DDR
CL 2-2-2-5
Available in 512MB and a 1GB (2x512MB) Dual Channel Optimized Kit
Unbuffered
Mirrored Platinum Copper Heatspreader
Lifetime Warranty
2.75 Volts
184 Pin DIMM

Special Features

Enhanced Latency Technology
2.9V EVP

Part Number
1GB (2x512) D/C Kit PN - OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K




SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : System manufacturer
Model : System Product Name
Version : System Version
Serial Number : System Serial Number
ID : 11111111-11111111-11111111-11111111

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Chassis Manufacture
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : Chassis Version
Serial Number : EVAL
Asset Tag : 123456789000
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC.
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : A8N-E
Version : 2.XX
Serial Number : 123456789000
System BIOS : 04/07/2006-NF-CK804-A8N-E-00

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 4GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : None None None None DIMM 512MB/64 @ 400Mt/s
Bank2/3 - A1 : None None None None DIMM 512MB/64 @ 400Mt/s
Bank4/5 - A2 : Empty
Bank6/7 - A3 : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) Athlon 64 / Opteron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Bus(es) : PCI PCIe USB i2c/SMBus
Version : 1.02
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 1005MHz (2010MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 1000MHz / 2x 200MHz
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : HyperTransport
Version : 1.02
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Speed : 2x 1005MHz (2010MHz data rate)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 4 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Bank 5 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Bank 6 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Bank 7 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS) CR2
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 4-way
Speed : 2x 201MHz (402MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/10x
Width : 64-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 1 Unit(s)
Refresh Rate : 7.80µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Memory Module 1
Model : OCZ4001024ELDCPER2
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U
Standard Timings : 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Version : 0.1
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, December 25, 1999
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)

Memory Module 2
Model : OCZ4001024ELDCPER2
Type : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 16x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U
Standard Timings : 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)
Version : 0.1
Date of Manufacture : Saturday, December 25, 1999
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 2.0-2-3-5 (tCL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8712F LPC
Version : 7.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 33.0°C / 91.4°F
CPU Temperature : 36.0°C / 96.8°F
Power / Aux Temperature : 25.0°C / 77.0°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
Chassis Fan Speed : 3245rpm
Power / Aux Fan Speed : 11250rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.41V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.28V
+5V Voltage : 4.97V
+12V Voltage : 11.73V
-12V Voltage : -1.50V
Standby Voltage : 4.95V
Battery Voltage : 3.14V

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
Number of Bridges : 5
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 1 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 2 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 3 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 4 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 5 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
Number of PCIe Lanes : 20

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 PCI to ISA Bridge

LPC Hub Controller 2
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 SMBus

USB Controller 1
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 USB Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 10
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 USB 2.0 Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 10
Companion Controllers : 1
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : nVidia MCP2+ SMBus 1
Version : 0A.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

System SMBus Controller 2
Model : nVidia MCP2+ SMBus 2
Version : 0A.02
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Half-Length Used (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 PCI to ISA Bridge)
PCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Half-Length Available (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 USB Controller)
PCI3 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Half-Length Available
PCIEX16_1 (4h) : PCIe x64 +5V PME Half-Length Used (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 AC'97 Audio Controller)
PCIEX4_1 (5h) : PCIe x8 +5V PME Half-Length Available
PCIEX1_1 (6h) : PCIe x2 +5V PME Half-Length Available (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller)
PCIEX1_2 (7h) : PCIe x2 +5V PME Half-Length Available (ASUSTeK Computer Inc nForce4 Serial ATA Controller)

Port Connector(s)
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
PS/2 Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB1 : USB - None / None
USB2 : USB - None / None
USB3 : USB - None / None
USB4 : USB - None / None
USB5 : USB - None / None
USB6 : USB - None / None
USB7 : USB - None / None
USB8 : USB - None / None
USB9 : USB - None / None
USB10 : USB - None / None
Line In : Audio - None / None
Line Out - Line Out : Audio - None / Mini-jack
Mic In - Mic In : Audio - None / Mini-jack
Back Surround L/R - Back Surround L/R : Audio - None / Mini-jack
Side Surround L/R - Side Surround L/R : Audio - None / Mini-jack
Center/LFE - Center/LFE : Audio - None / Mini-jack
CD In - CD In : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
Aux In - Aux In : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
SPDIF Out - Audio SPDIF Out : Audio - None / None
Front Panel - Front Panel : Audio - None / None
ETHERNET : Network - None / RJ-45
Joystick : Joystick - None / DB-15 pin female
SATA1 : None - ATA / None
SATA2 : None - ATA / None
SATA3 : None - ATA / None
SATA4 : None - ATA / None
MIDI : MIDI - None / DB-15 pin female
CHASSIS : None - None / None
CPU_FAN1 : None - None / None
CHIPSET_FAN1 : None - None / None
PWR_FAN1 : None - None / None
CHA_FAN1 : None - None / None
CHA_FAN2 : None - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

 

[shadowdr]

I would go here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=20349 download the spd Editor. Check one pair and then the other and save the files. Open two instances of the editor and compare them to be sure all values are the same.
The voltage is rated at 2.75 according to OCZ website and auto is 2.6 on mine so bump that up to spec. Did all the slots work when you tested them one at a time by themselves?

 

[Jerome Bettis]

no...the last two (DIMM_B1 and DIMM_B2) gave me beep errors. But maybe that is because one stick is only supposed to work in DIMM_A1 or DIMM_A2. I don't know.

I will change the DDR voltage and try that spd editor and report back.

Thanks

 

[brakezone]

have you tried running them at 333mhz JUST to test to see if it will work? BTW careful with the voltage, ram can be sensitive so make sure you know what it can take.

 

[Jerome Bettis]

yeah memclock was at 333 prior to 400. thank you. back soon.

 

[Jerome Bettis]

Is there a reason why SPD says module 1 and module 3 ? Shouldn't it be 1 and 2 ?

 

[Jerome Bettis]

Shadow that SPD program is awesome. I found the problem.

It seems that even though the RAM has the same basic timing specs somehow I bought RAM that actually has different part numbers. Don't ask me how. The part number is what I always look for first so maybe somewhere along the way I chose the wrong RAM because I had been looking at so many different modules online.

Anyway what's done is done. The good news is that my slots are fine I guess.

Maybe you can tell me if a work around is possible. If not, then I guess I am forced to sell on eBay.

The difference is specs are as follows:


SDRAM access from Clock
[old is 0.65 ns - new is 0.70 ns]

Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRP)
[old is 15.00 ns - new is 10.00 ns]

Maximum device cycle time (tCKmax)
[old is 3.00 ns - new is 2.80 ns]

Maximum Read Data Hold Skew Factor (tQHS)
[old is 0.50 ns - new is 0.80 ns]

SPD Revision
[old is Undefined - new is 0.0]

New Module Part Number OCZ4001024ELDCPER2
Old Module Part Number OCZ4001024DCPER2-K


SPD lets you adjust specs so should I do that? Should I still increase DDR Voltage to 2.75 in my BIOS?

 

[shadowdr]

I would not flash any sticks yet as it voids the warranty.
Try these settings as they appear on the bios screen,
2.5
7
3
3
11t
24t
4t
3t
These settings are only slightly slower then stock and as the spd's are different it might work. try it at 400 and at 333. If it boots at either setting you can change the cpu setting to raise the ram speed to 200 mhz.
Because 1 set is 5-2-2-2 and the other is 5-2-3-2 it might be hard finding settings that both pairs like.

 

[Jerome Bettis]

...If it boots at either setting you can change the cpu setting to raise the ram speed to 200 mhz...

Thanks. What CPU setting are you referring to and what should the DDR Voltage be at? 2.65?

 

[Jerome Bettis]

Ok I tried and no luck...I'm just going to sell the pair on eBay. I had planned to sell my system parts anyway so it's ok. I really appreciate your help. You showed me a lot of new stuff

On an unrelated note I have one other problem I thought you could help me with since I'm here. I was booting from an external USB HD last week because I was testing an OS. I have since removed the USB connection but my machine is still trying to boot from it even though it is not listed in the device manager or BIOS device list. Screen shot below.

Is there are CMOS function I can try that will set all my HDs back to just the two SATA HD's I have? Or should I just reconnect my two SATA's and see what happens?

The first line is the previous external USB HD.

Second line is another OS on SATA 1 that I'm using now.

Third line is another OS on SATA 2 that I use for testing.

I always have to hit F8 at the BIOS screen to make sure I get to this menu bypassing the "you have the wrong drive configuration notice". How do I remove the old USB HD instance?

 

[shadowdr]

I would leave the voltage on auto for now.
I was refering to , if the mobo will boot at 333 then ram would be 166 so you could lower the multiplier to say 8.5 and fsb to around 234 and htt to 4x wich would make the ram speed right around 200. This is only if it will boot at all with the four sticks. I have heard of mobo's forcing the 333 divider when all slots are full but was unaware that this would be one of them.
Will it boot with the two new sticks in a1 and a2 with one stick of the older ram in b1 or b2 ? (using the above timings)
Will it boot with one stick in a1 and another of the same in b1 ?