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Since many of my friends have been inquiring of late about building comps or systems, I thought I'd throw together this guide.
I'm aiming here for anyone who's not built in the last couple years (or ever), so I'll try to be helpful and relatively brief. For those who need it, the detailed "what's the best ______ (ram/cpu/etc) for my comp" thread is usually stickied in each of the main forum areas.
When I think of a system, I think of the following 12:
Preferences, pocketbooks, needs, and desires vary greatly from person to person. I'll try to keep this guide bent toward the gamer with various comments for other user types.
I'll reference prices at Newegg.com for simplicity. Of course you should shop around and buy from reputable businesses.
Pricewatch and Froogle are great for comparative pricing while ResellerRatings is a great tool for checking credibility of a store.
1. Case
2. Power Supply
3. Motherboard
4. Processor
5. Ram
6. Graphics card
7. Hard drive
8. Optical drive
9. Operating system
10. Keyboard/mouse
11. Monitor
12. Speakers/headphones
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Ok, here are a few recommended systems:
Valuewoot
Wootgamer Spring '06
Megawoot
ExtremeWoot
Prices will drop. New hardware will come out. New guides will need to be written.
For now, I hope this helps some of you with the "what do I get?" questions.
Good luck!
MW
I'm aiming here for anyone who's not built in the last couple years (or ever), so I'll try to be helpful and relatively brief. For those who need it, the detailed "what's the best ______ (ram/cpu/etc) for my comp" thread is usually stickied in each of the main forum areas.
When I think of a system, I think of the following 12:
- case
- power supply
- motherboard
- processor
- ram
- gfx card
- hard drive
- optical drive
- operating system
- keyboard/mouse
- monitor
- speakers/headphones
Preferences, pocketbooks, needs, and desires vary greatly from person to person. I'll try to keep this guide bent toward the gamer with various comments for other user types.
I'll reference prices at Newegg.com for simplicity. Of course you should shop around and buy from reputable businesses.
Pricewatch and Froogle are great for comparative pricing while ResellerRatings is a great tool for checking credibility of a store.
1. Case
There are soooo many cases to choose from. Here are some of the many good ones out there.
Antec Superlanboy for light aluminum ease of transport.
Antec Sonata II for a clean look and a good deal as it comes with a SmartPower 2.0 450W power supply.
Lian-Li cases for great aluminum cases with style. Be prepared to pay for the good quality you'll get.
Of course, you'll likely want a mid-tower unless you have special interests in water cooling or mega-stacks of hard drives for a server or your mondo mp3 collection.
Also, pay attention to the size of the case fans. The 120mm fans are soooo nice and quiet compared to the 80mm's.
Antec Superlanboy for light aluminum ease of transport.
Antec Sonata II for a clean look and a good deal as it comes with a SmartPower 2.0 450W power supply.
Lian-Li cases for great aluminum cases with style. Be prepared to pay for the good quality you'll get.
Of course, you'll likely want a mid-tower unless you have special interests in water cooling or mega-stacks of hard drives for a server or your mondo mp3 collection.
Also, pay attention to the size of the case fans. The 120mm fans are soooo nice and quiet compared to the 80mm's.
2. Power Supply
You should definitely put the money here into a good, quality power supply. Skimp on some cheap unit and you'll regret it. DON'T SKIMP HERE!!!
Antec has been making some very quality power supplies.
FSP Group (Fortron Source) makes quality power supplies for a good price.
Enermax stands out as another good option.
PC Power & Cooling for the best. Again, you'll have to pay for the best.
Don't forget that your power supply should be 24-pin capable.
You'll definitely want to buy at least 480 Watt with more power needed if you're gonna go SLI or Crossfire on your video cards.
My picks:
FSP Group's AX500-A for about $90 or
Antec's TruepowerIII for around $95.
Of course FSP Group's FX700 is very tempting at $177.
Antec has been making some very quality power supplies.
FSP Group (Fortron Source) makes quality power supplies for a good price.
Enermax stands out as another good option.
PC Power & Cooling for the best. Again, you'll have to pay for the best.
Don't forget that your power supply should be 24-pin capable.
You'll definitely want to buy at least 480 Watt with more power needed if you're gonna go SLI or Crossfire on your video cards.
My picks:
FSP Group's AX500-A for about $90 or
Antec's TruepowerIII for around $95.
Of course FSP Group's FX700 is very tempting at $177.
3. Motherboard
Currently I believe the best performance per dollar and best performance title goes to AMD (currently). So for now I'll recommend for an AMD setup. Perhaps I'll edit later to include some Intel recommendations.
Socket 939 holds the crown for now. AMD will release their AM2 later this year as a DDR2 route, but this is the "Spring 2006" guide.
ASUS for solid, dependable performance.
MSI for another good motherboard option.
DFI for loads of overclocking options. Many hold that DFI makes "the fastest and best boards."
I'd definitely recommend Nvidia's NF4-Ultra or NF4-SLI chipset.
Here are my picks: DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D, DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert, ASUS A8N-SLI, or the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
Of course you can always find the deluxe version in these boards for all the bells and whistles.
Socket 939 holds the crown for now. AMD will release their AM2 later this year as a DDR2 route, but this is the "Spring 2006" guide.
ASUS for solid, dependable performance.
MSI for another good motherboard option.
DFI for loads of overclocking options. Many hold that DFI makes "the fastest and best boards."
I'd definitely recommend Nvidia's NF4-Ultra or NF4-SLI chipset.
Here are my picks: DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D, DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert, ASUS A8N-SLI, or the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
Of course you can always find the deluxe version in these boards for all the bells and whistles.
4. Processor
AMD's socket 939 processors simply rock.
Higher clock speeds, greater L2 cache, and dual cores will yield higher performances and demand more change from your pocketbook.
1MB L2 cache will yield roughly a 10% gain for you over a 512KB cache at the same clock speed. So a 2.0GHz
1MB L2 cache and a 2.2GHz 512KB L2 cache cpu will be close in performance. (I'd grab the 1MB cache personally.)
Dual or single core? If you are going to game your brains out, then go for the highest Ghz and L2 cache you can afford. The sweet advantage of a dual processor only comes into play when you're doing things that can take advantage of two processors. Currently, games don't utilize the both processors in a dual core cpu. So in short, spend the $$ first to get more Ghz and more L2 cache, then grab the second core. Ideally, you'd have the money for a dual core (2x1MB L2 cache) 2.4 ghz. However, you'll likely have to overclock to get that or be content with something less.
Three good choices depending on your pocketbook:
Venice 3200+ single core with 512KB L2 cache, stock @ 2.0GHz for about $155.
San Diego 3700+ single core with 1MB L2 cache, stock @ 2.2GHz for about $215.
Toledo X2 4400+ dual core each with 1MB L2 cache, stock @ 2.2GHz for about $465.
Grab the equivalent in an Opteron core for a more likely chance at better overclocks. However, the prices on Opteron cores have exceeded their non-server designated counterparts.
NOTE: The Opteron 165 and 170 are good choices for dual core each with 1MB L2 cache. The 165 runs stock at 1.8 Ghz w/ a mulitplier of 9 and the 170 runs stock at 2.0 Ghz w/ a multiplier of 10. I'd grab the 170 since that multiplier of 10 makes overclocking much nicer.
You can grab an Opteron 170 for about $400.
Higher clock speeds, greater L2 cache, and dual cores will yield higher performances and demand more change from your pocketbook.
1MB L2 cache will yield roughly a 10% gain for you over a 512KB cache at the same clock speed. So a 2.0GHz
1MB L2 cache and a 2.2GHz 512KB L2 cache cpu will be close in performance. (I'd grab the 1MB cache personally.)
Dual or single core? If you are going to game your brains out, then go for the highest Ghz and L2 cache you can afford. The sweet advantage of a dual processor only comes into play when you're doing things that can take advantage of two processors. Currently, games don't utilize the both processors in a dual core cpu. So in short, spend the $$ first to get more Ghz and more L2 cache, then grab the second core. Ideally, you'd have the money for a dual core (2x1MB L2 cache) 2.4 ghz. However, you'll likely have to overclock to get that or be content with something less.
Three good choices depending on your pocketbook:
Venice 3200+ single core with 512KB L2 cache, stock @ 2.0GHz for about $155.
San Diego 3700+ single core with 1MB L2 cache, stock @ 2.2GHz for about $215.
Toledo X2 4400+ dual core each with 1MB L2 cache, stock @ 2.2GHz for about $465.
Grab the equivalent in an Opteron core for a more likely chance at better overclocks. However, the prices on Opteron cores have exceeded their non-server designated counterparts.
NOTE: The Opteron 165 and 170 are good choices for dual core each with 1MB L2 cache. The 165 runs stock at 1.8 Ghz w/ a mulitplier of 9 and the 170 runs stock at 2.0 Ghz w/ a multiplier of 10. I'd grab the 170 since that multiplier of 10 makes overclocking much nicer.
You can grab an Opteron 170 for about $400.
5. Ram
Although you could go with 1GB (2x512MB) to handle most gaming, I'd recommend 2GB (2x1GB) if you're building a new system. You'll only "need" PC3200 (DDR 400) even for some mild overclocking. If you want to really crank your OC, then faster ram 'tis the way to go.
OCZ has won my heart for ram. SOLID RAM. Great support. Great warrantees.
Corsair has always stood strong.
Crucial also has been true and steady. You've got to love those Ballistix!!
G.Skill has been a relatively newcomer to the ram world and produces great ram at great prices.
Mushkin grabs high marks also for their sweet ram--in particular the Redline series--for nice overclocking.
Sweet deals like OCZ Gold Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500 (PC 4000) for $205 ($165 after MIR) seem to come along quite often of late. So keep your eyes peeled.
My pick:
G.Skill's Extreme DDR 500 (PC4000) USU2's for $162!!!
OCZ has won my heart for ram. SOLID RAM. Great support. Great warrantees.
Corsair has always stood strong.
Crucial also has been true and steady. You've got to love those Ballistix!!
G.Skill has been a relatively newcomer to the ram world and produces great ram at great prices.
Mushkin grabs high marks also for their sweet ram--in particular the Redline series--for nice overclocking.
Sweet deals like OCZ Gold Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500 (PC 4000) for $205 ($165 after MIR) seem to come along quite often of late. So keep your eyes peeled.
My pick:
G.Skill's Extreme DDR 500 (PC4000) USU2's for $162!!!
6. Graphics card
This single part alone will make or break your gaming as well as your bank account. Reviews like this one at Tom's hardware or guides like this one can be very helpful. Read up for your own conclusion.
My recommendation:
Geforce 6600GT for around $130
Radeon X800GTO2. It's got a great record with tons of help here in the forumns. Good deal for around $150.
Radeon X850XT for around $160
Geforce 7600GT for around $195
Radeon X1800XT for around $300 (or Geforce 7900GT if you'd rather have Nvidia)
Radeon X1900XT for around $435
If you're thinking 2 graphics cards (SLI for Nvidia or Crossfire for ATI), then make sure you have the motherboard and cash to support it.
(If you have the "need" to spend $1100, then grab 2 Nvidia's Geforce 7900GTX cards.)
My recommendation:
Geforce 6600GT for around $130
Radeon X800GTO2. It's got a great record with tons of help here in the forumns. Good deal for around $150.
Radeon X850XT for around $160
Geforce 7600GT for around $195
Radeon X1800XT for around $300 (or Geforce 7900GT if you'd rather have Nvidia)
Radeon X1900XT for around $435
If you're thinking 2 graphics cards (SLI for Nvidia or Crossfire for ATI), then make sure you have the motherboard and cash to support it.
(If you have the "need" to spend $1100, then grab 2 Nvidia's Geforce 7900GTX cards.)
7. Hard drive
Definitely grab a 3.0Gb/sec SATA drive or a "Raptor" from Western Digital. The raptors do require the bucks though.
Seagate's Barracuda 7200.9 series are fabulous.
Personally, I can't think of any other drive than Western Digital's 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive that you can get for under $100
You'll likely have an idea already of how much space you'll need. I'd recommend two drives for anyone needing or wanting some "backup" space.
Seagate's Barracuda 7200.9 series are fabulous.
Personally, I can't think of any other drive than Western Digital's 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive that you can get for under $100
You'll likely have an idea already of how much space you'll need. I'd recommend two drives for anyone needing or wanting some "backup" space.
8. Optical drive
9. Operating system
If you're even wondering, then you should get Windows XP home and save the money. Of course Windows XP Pro does have more options for networking--yet you'd have known that already if you really need it.
If you're wondering about Linux, then you shouldn't put it on this new build. Put it on an older comp for your first Linux go 'round. Of course, those of you who already know/use Linux will have already made up your mind on this one.
If you're wondering about Linux, then you shouldn't put it on this new build. Put it on an older comp for your first Linux go 'round. Of course, those of you who already know/use Linux will have already made up your mind on this one.
10. Keyboard/mouse
Logitech has won my support over and over again.
Grab a Logitech MX 5000 if you have the $115 laying around.
Definitely get a laser mouse! Logitech's G5 Laser for usb corded and Logitech's MX1000 or their G7 for cordless.
For keyboards, it's all your pleasure.
The blue or red backlit "eclipse" keyboard from Saitek makes for a sweet setup.
Grab a Logitech MX 5000 if you have the $115 laying around.
Definitely get a laser mouse! Logitech's G5 Laser for usb corded and Logitech's MX1000 or their G7 for cordless.
For keyboards, it's all your pleasure.
The blue or red backlit "eclipse" keyboard from Saitek makes for a sweet setup.
11. Monitor
LCD. LCD. LCD. Got that?
With prices as they are, I can't imagine why you wouldn't go with a 19" LCD.
BENQ and Sceptre both have been solid and well priced LCD's for me. There are many other quality LCD manufacturers out there. Be sure to check out other gamer's experiences with LCDs.
Also, be sure to read up on ViewSonic's LCD vs CRT rundown where they discuss tons of issues. (Click on the LCD advantages and CRT advantages links.) Note the "total cost of ownership" and the "multiple resolutions" sections.
My pick goes to Sceptre's X9g-Naga V Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor for about $255.
Of course if you have the cash to slap down for a widescreen 24" LCD, then grab the Dell 2405FPW.
With prices as they are, I can't imagine why you wouldn't go with a 19" LCD.
BENQ and Sceptre both have been solid and well priced LCD's for me. There are many other quality LCD manufacturers out there. Be sure to check out other gamer's experiences with LCDs.
Also, be sure to read up on ViewSonic's LCD vs CRT rundown where they discuss tons of issues. (Click on the LCD advantages and CRT advantages links.) Note the "total cost of ownership" and the "multiple resolutions" sections.
My pick goes to Sceptre's X9g-Naga V Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor for about $255.
Of course if you have the cash to slap down for a widescreen 24" LCD, then grab the Dell 2405FPW.
12. Speakers/headphones
You audio freaks already know what's best. For everyone else, I'll keep it simple.
Simple and good sound: Logitech X-230 32 Watts 2.1 Speakers for about $40.
Good surround sound:Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker for around $70.
Headphones: grab a headset (mic included) like Sennheiser's PC 150 for about $47.
Simple and good sound: Logitech X-230 32 Watts 2.1 Speakers for about $40.
Good surround sound:Logitech X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speaker for around $70.
Headphones: grab a headset (mic included) like Sennheiser's PC 150 for about $47.
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Ok, here are a few recommended systems:
Valuewoot
- Antec Sonata II case
- (Antec's Smartpower2 450W power supply included with case)
- ASUS A8N-SLI motherboard (or DFI's LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D if you want to really overclock)
- AMD Venice 3200+ processor
- 1GB (1x512MB) Corsair ValueSelect DDR 400 (PC3200)
- XFX Geforce 6600GT graphics card
- Western Digital's 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- NEC ND-3550A DVD burner
- Windows XP home
- Logitech basic keyboard and Logitech's MX518 mouse (both corded)
- BenQ's T903 Black 19" 16ms LCD
- Sennheiser's PC 150 headphones
Total price $1,095.79 before shipping. (Saved as ValueWootS06 under Newegg's public wishlists.)
Wootgamer Spring '06
- Antec Superlanboy
- Fortron-Sparkle's AX500-A 500W power supply
- ASUS A8N-SLI motherboard (or DFI's LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D if you want to really overclock)
- AMD San Diego 3700+ processor
- 2GB (2x1GB) G.Skill's Extreme DDR 500 (PC4000) USU2's
- Sapphire Radeon X850XT graphics card
- Western Digital's 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- NEC ND-3550A DVD burner
- Windows XP home
- Saitek Eclipse keyboard (blue) and Logitech G5 laser mouse (both USB corded)
- Sceptre's X9g-Naga V Black 19" 8ms LCD
- Sennheiser's PC 150 headphones
Total price $1,422.75 before shipping. (Saved as WootgamerS06 under Newegg's public wishlists.)
Megawoot
- Lian Li PC-V1000APlus II Silver or Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case.
- Fortron-Sparkle's AX500-A 500W power supply or bump to their 600W version.
- DFI's LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo processor
- OCZ Platinum Edition 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500 (PC 4000) ram or Mushkin eXtreme Performance (REDLINES!!) 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500 (PC 4000)
- Sapphire Radeon X1900XT graphics card
- Western Digital's 74GB Raptor AND Western Digital's 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- NEC ND-3550A DVD burner
- Windows XP Pro
- Logitech's MX 5000 USB Bluetooth Wireless mouse/keyboard combo
- Sceptre's X9g-Naga V Black 19" 8ms LCD
- Logitech's X-530 70 Watts 5.1 Speakers AND Sennheiser's PC 150 headphones
Total price $2,494.87 before shipping. (Saved as MegawootS06 under Newegg's public wishlists.)
ExtremeWoot
coming soon....
Prices will drop. New hardware will come out. New guides will need to be written.
For now, I hope this helps some of you with the "what do I get?" questions.
Good luck!
MW
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