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c627627

c627627

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Thorton - please post if you know where to get one

There are three models:
2000+, 2200+ or a 2400+

If it says AXDC2000 instead of AXDA2000
and the second letter of the stepping code is Q, it's a Thor(n)ton.

Please post if you know where to get them!

AXDC2000DUT3C AXDC2200DUT3C AXDC2400DUT3C

EDIT: Here we go:

1. $66+0 http://accessmicro.com/content/products/productinfo.cfm?partnumber=CPPAMSA20THXP&product_id=47897

2. 96 cents cheaper, at $65.04+0
http://www.knowledgemicro.com/detail.php?name=AXDC-2000
but they're less reliable, prolly not worth risking getting the wrong CPU or getting it late...
http://www.resellerratings.com/



Edit: Even Stroligo calls them Thortons now so they are not Thor(n)tons.

Edit2: 8:00am - 5:00pm PST, Monday through Friday
(800) 906-6868 Select Option 1

Give them
AccessMicro P/N: CPPAMSA20THXP

and instead of $66 the price was $60 and they even use free FedEx air instead of ground shipping.
 
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This is a semi thread-crap, but are these supposed to clock up well? Does *anyone* have one, or some results with it?

I will scour the local stores for you - I'll tell you if I find anything. Do you know any weeks of production?
 
Yes because they're Bartons with 1/2 cache disabled or not working.

If the other half of cache is actually working, then:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030930171549.html

Remember this only applies to Model 10 2000+, 2200+ and 2400+ with second letter of stepping code being 'Q'.

I need a CPU this week, why not a Thor(n)ton so I can tell you guys how it overclocks.

I got thermalright SLK-900A a-coming (I got the last $19.99 order in, they're $29.99 now, all coupon codes are dead) as well as Buffalo Technology Winbond CH-5 PC3200 which I'm gambling on because of price even though only twinmos/ch-5 winbond pc3200 is a sure thing RAM.
 
c627627 said:
Yes because they're Bartons with 1/2 cache disabled or not working.

If the other half of cache is actually working, then:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030930171549.html

Remember this only applies to Model 10 2000+, 2200+ and 2400+ with second letter of stepping code being 'Q'.

I need a CPU this week, why not a Thor(n)ton so I can tell you guys how it overclocks.

I got thermalright SLK-900A a-coming (I got the last $19.99 order in, they're $29.99 now, all coupon codes are dead) as well as Buffalo Technology Winbond CH-5 PC3200 which I'm gambling on because of price even though only twinmos/ch-5 winbond pc3200 is a sure thing RAM.
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Do you also have a 92x38 mm 119 CFM Tornado fan and an ear muff ;) for testing?
 
c627627 said:
Na, I got this one instead, what do you think?

http://store.yahoo.com/svcompucycle/en92vasphipe1.html
variable to as much as 64.15CFM at 34.3dB


I passed on Panaflo 48.0 CFM at 30 dB-A
http://store.yahoo.com/svcompucycle/pahywabefb.html
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I think the Enermax 92 mm is good for actual daily usage, since noise can be adjusted, max at 64 CFM. The CFM is slightly less then an 80 mm TT SFII, max at 75.7 CFM.

So I am not sure which is better for a SLK-900:
- a 92 mm 64.15 CFM Enermax or
- a 80 mm 75.7 CFM TT SFII
both fan speed adjustable.

But for max overclocking, benchmarking and fun, the 92x38 mm Tornado at 119 CFM with the SLK-900/947 would be the combo to use. It is good to have one handy for fun and maximal testing. I was trying to get it w/ a SLK-947U, but it has been out of stock for quite a while at svc.
 
accessmicro.com has the 2000+ thorton for $66 & free shipping.

I got a 2400+ thorton from them a couple of weeks ago. I did the mod to enable the full 512k cache using a rear window defogger repair kit. It only took about 5 minutes. I'm running it at 2.4 with 1.9v.
 
joikd said:
accessmicro.com has the 2000+ thorton for $66 & free shipping.

I got a 2400+ thorton from them a couple of weeks ago. I did the mod to enable the full 512k cache using a rear window defogger repair kit. It only took about 5 minutes. I'm running it at 2.4 with 1.9v.
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Nice.

Could your post stepping and five letter code?

BTW. What cooling?
 
hitechjb1, tt smII 20.55 CFM at 17 dB and 75.7 CFM at 48 dB
Does it only have two speeds?

Surely the three speed 92mm fan doing 64 CFM at 34 dB at most is better if noise is a concern and surely it will be a concern at 48 db....

My current SK-7 is doing just fine with YS tech 48 CFM at 40 dB.
Surely 64 CFM at 34 dB will be overkill and it will be quieter. What do you think?


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c627627 said:
hitechjb1, tt smII 20.55 CFM at 17 dB and 75.7 CFM at 48 dB
Does it only have two speeds?

Surely the three speed 92mm fan doing 64 CFM at 34 dB at most is better if noise is a concern and surely it will be a concern at 48 db....

My current SK-7 is doing just fine with YS tech 48 CFM at 40 dB.
Surely 64 CFM at 34 dB will be overkill and it will be quieter. What do you think?

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The 80mm TT SFII is fully adjustable continuously, from low to high using a knob. So it delivers higher CFM than the Enermax 92 mm. Apparently, I would prefer TT SFII, unless it can shown that there are some advantages of the lower CFM 92 mm Enmermax.

I always try to get the highest CFM fan for testing, so if I want, I can find the full potential of a CPU. Always the higher CFM, the better for testing and benchmarking. Either one has to add a 10 ohm VR to adjust the fan speed, or have another fan for 24/7 usage.

Some other metric to evaluate fan is the CFM per dbA.

But once it is in lower speed mode to reduce noise between 2500-3500 rpm, the high CFM does not matter any more. For daily usage, one can just lower the fan speed and run the CPU at the acceptable noise level.
 
1. So tt sm II is manual, not automatic?

2. "...unless it can be shown that there are some advantages of the lower CFM 92 mm Enermax."

Well, yes, more CFM with less noise (if you need 64 CFM at most).
 
The TT SFII can be manual or automatic. To run in auto mode, one has to add a sensor (come w/ package) to somewhere under the chip (forget the details).

I always use manual mode. I don't like to use automatic because I don't like to mess around by adding the sensor. The auto feedback mechanism may not work as one would like.

Anyway, I think it is still the best all around fan at ~$10.
 
Well easy to tell if it is:

$11.99 92 mm

47.34CFM...52.25CFM...64.15CFM
28.0dB........32.6dB........34.3dB

What's $9.99 80mm TT SM II's noise at those three levels?
 
TT SFII:
17 dbA 1300 rpm 20.55 CFM
48 dbA 4800 rpm 75.7 CFM
continuously adjustable between these two points.

For other values of CFM and rpm, one can approximate by a straight line between these two points.

So assuming CFM to rpm is linear,
CFM / rpm = (75.7 - 20.55) / (4800 - 1300) = 0.0157 CFM / rpm

dbA is non-linear, so I cannot come up with a number in between,
 
Why is the extra cache disabled? Is it non-functional? So basically you are buying a hit-or-miss-cache Barton.. should be very interesting to see how high you can get it. And go with a Tt Smartfan II - adjustable, and powerful.


joikd said:
accessmicro.com has the 2000+ thorton for $66 & free shipping.

I got a 2400+ thorton from them a couple of weeks ago. I did the mod to enable the full 512k cache using a rear window defogger repair kit. It only took about 5 minutes. I'm running it at 2.4 with 1.9v.
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What is a rear window defogger repair kit, and what should I ask for at my hardware store? This stuff is conductive right? Can you give me a brand name, and a rough price? I have been trying to find a cheap, and conductive paint-on liquid that dries for a long time (Soldering volt mods is too scary for me. Nearly had a heart attack doing Vcore...).
 
Hitech, I know you're a scientific man and I can't ask you this but try to guess, no pressure fully knowing there's no way to tell for sure, what would tt II do noisewise at

47.34CFM...52.25CFM...64.15CFM
28.0dB........32.6dB........34.3dB

(I actually have both tt II as well as the 92 mm Enermax coming in the same package, so...)


felinusz, marketing reasons of course, they're doing Barton/Hammer production only so Thortons are the below 2500+ Bartons with only one half of cache working by default.

I was going to wait to actually buy it to start the mod procedure talk but here's what I got so far:


Superglue. Tape around the bridge first so that the glue only goes down into the pit. Let it dry for 5 minutes, scrape it off with an exacto/razorblade, paint the bridge.

White-out works as well instead of Super glue they say.

pic of which bridge:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20030930171549.html
 
Personally i would go for the enermax , i would bet that the TT Smart Fan would be pretty noisey at around the 64CFM mark , where the enermax is 34db.

The fan is slightly bigger so it stands to reason that it wouldnt have to spin as fast to produce the same CFM - right?

I have had quite a few TT fans (both cpu and case) and i think they under state the actual noise level. For instance my old volcano 7 , over 3500rpm and you would start to pull your hair out, 4000rpm+ and you think an aeroplane is going to land on you.

I know it is adjustable but noise has to be a big factor and enermax are pretty good at making silent fans, where TT are well known for making screemers.
 
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