Which build should I get?

[GingaMilla]

I have just created 2 builds on pcpartpicker.com and looking for feedback on which one I should get?

Custom Build 1;

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/GingaMilla/saved/Jh6KHx

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core £130.94
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £24.97
Motherboard: MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 £63.60
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 £57.99
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" SSD £51.75
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM £35.94
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR £177.94
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower £43.48
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V £45.48
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) £69.99
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 £9.79

Total: £711.84

Custom Build 2;

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/GingaMilla/saved/T6cypg

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core £125.00
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £24.97
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ £61.92
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 £62.39
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" SSD £51.75
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM £35.94
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card £153.46
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower £43.48
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V £45.48
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) £69.99
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 £9.79

Total: £684.17

My original thought was to go with the Intel rig and with this being for gaming and multitasking I thought intel would be the best option.

 

[Mandrake4565]

Build 1

You also do not need an after marker heatsink on the Intel as you will not be overclocking it, the stock sink is fine.

I wouldn't even attempt to run an Fx 8xxx chip on the Asus M5A97 board.

 

[GingaMilla]

Ok, brilliant. Thank you!

 

[Theocnoob]

Build 1 CRUSHES build 2.

 

[bob4933]

For plug n play goodness, build 1 is definitely the way to go. As mandrake mentioned, running the 8350 on the m5a97 is just a bad idea.

On build 1->
Between the gtx 760 and the r9 280x, definitely go with the 760 as its cheaper, and performs at nearly the same level as the 280x. Splitting hairs for 40$ is a no brainer. The 760 is also less taxing on the PSU. From there, you could take the money saved and get an after market cpu cooler (one moment) or boost your SSD size up. Why a new cooler? Because those stock intel coolers sound like a damn chainsaw firing up when they get going haha.

 

[GingaMilla]

Thanks ever so much for the feedback! I think I shall be setting this build in stone then along with the things you suggested. Been trying to get a build sorted out for a while now and I can finally start it!

Thanks again!

 

[GingaMilla]

Which GeForce GTX 760 manufacturer should I buy? And would 2gb be enough?

 

[bob4933]

That msi one you posted is pretty highly regarded. And on 1080p, yes 2gb is enough for pretty much anything. Edit: if you plan on dual monitors or 1440p in the future, the 4gb version will help you longer term. I'd say get the cheaper of the two now, and save up for a higher end card down the road.

 

[GingaMilla]

I will only be gaming on one monitor so that won't be a problem for a long time. Thanks again for the feedback.

 

[bob4933]

What are your intentions with this build? What games, and can you define "multi tasking" a little more?

 

[GingaMilla]

I am thinking of playing any game I want on it basically. I am planning on playing games like CoD, BF, Skyrim, Fallout, Neverwinter, maybe LoL(I want to start getting into these games not played them this much). I may want to live stream while gaming? But right now I ain't going to do such a thing but I want to make sure the CPU is powerful enough to run multiple applications. I could be watching a live stream while I play a game like Minecraft or something? Would this CPU be able to handle those types of things at once?

Edit - Don't consoles run 30fps? I am used to that so I don't see what the big deal is with FPS, or is it different on PC?

 

[bob4933]

Its different on a pc as far as fps goes. Console games are optimized for that 30fps, to which 30 fps on a pc for me is absolutely unplayable. The reason I ask is because there may be other things you can swap around.

For instance, I would (personally) get rid of the 212 evo, and get a bigger SSD. Albeit I HATE the startup noise on most stock coolers, but with the size of games nowadays, you will burn through 128gb mighty quickly.

as for streaming and gaming, yeah its feasible. Depending on the game, you may want more ram down the line.

 

[GingaMilla]

How does an SSD work? Would I put my OS and games on there to make the PC and games run faster or would I be able to just have the OS on the SSD and store games on HDD? If needs be I can get the next size up.

 

[Theocnoob]

I dont know where you are getting your information but a 280X is significantly more powerful than a 760. It can max out Grid Autosport. 760 can not.

 

[bob4933]

I dont know where you are getting your information but a 280X is significantly more powerful than a 760. It can max out Grid Autosport. 760 can not.

It's lovely you found the one example thats WELL KNOWN to favor AMD cards that shows a significant gap between the two.


Given the COMPARABLE nature in most situations, hes better off getting the 760 and stepping up his other components. There is no relevant place where a 760 would be a "deal breaker" where a 280x is not. Given the performance per dollar, where he's purchasing from, the 760 is the clear winner. I even took the time to mention the 280x would be more relevant in certain places, but the OP agrees that this would suit his build.

I mean, its his money right? Lets just talk him into buying a gtx 970!!!


edit: cryengine is THE benchmark at the moment.

edit 2: I am well aware the 280x is "more powerful". In the context of $ for $, the 760 edges out the 280x in this particular circumstance. Whereever he's from, the 760 is cheaper by 40$

edit 3: The 760 is now 60 pounds cheaper, thats almost 90$ now. 760 is DEFINITELY the winner.

 

[Theocnoob]

Ok. $40 cheaper, I guess it's worth it.

 

[bob4933]

Ok. $40 cheaper, I guess it's worth it.

its now 90$ cheaper. that 280x was on sale or something.

 

[GingaMilla]

So after all this discussion would this be the build to go for?(adding in a 250gb SSD)


CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core £130.94
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing £24.97
Motherboard MSI H97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 £63.60
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 £57.99
Storage Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" SSD £51.75
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM £35.94
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR £149.99
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower £43.48
Power Supply XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V £45.48
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) £69.99
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN881ND 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 £9.79

 

[trents]

How does an SSD work? Would I put my OS and games on there to make the PC and games run faster or would I be able to just have the OS on the SSD and store games on HDD? If needs be I can get the next size up.

The approach most people take is to get say an 240-256 gb SSD in combination with a larger spinner hard drive. Put the OS and large programs on the SSD but store data (documents, pictures, video, etc.) on the spinner. The spinner, therefore, would be used to hold stuff that takes up a lot of room but isn't accessed frequently. This arrangement would take advantage of the much faster boot and program loading times of the SSD as well as the higher capacity per dollar of the spinner.

 

[Theocnoob]

DO NOT get Windows 7. Get 8.1 and run classic shell. Feels like Win 7 with all the advantages (and free upgrade to Win 10) of Win 8.1. Don't get Win 7. It also won't support DX12.