10, 16, 20, 24, 32, 40 cores? Quick benchmarks

Don't mean to keep bothering you guys, but some of you took part in my last thread looking for multi-core benchmark runs. We got some great 12 core benchmark runs out of that, and it was a big help to our benching team!

I learned 2 important things from that:

1. It is hard to get people to do this, because most people folding with this many cores are not running windows.
2. Windows server 2008 is available through a free trial, and the enterprise edition supports up to 8 physical processors - this will suit your needs for running the following benchmarks

So if you can throw together a quick windows install, and run the following benchmarks, it will be worth big points to our team! Each benchmark only takes a minute or so to run, so its quick once you have your OS installed - the benchmarks can be run at stock and worth lots of points still to the team:

wprime32m - http://91.121.148.119/downloads/benchmarks/wPrime.exe
wprime1024m - use above link
ucbench - http://91.121.148.119/downloads/benchmarks/unrar-crack_benchmark-2011-win32.zip

Rewards: If you complete the above benchmarks using the listed number of cores, I will recruit benchmarkers to fold under your userid to make up for the points while your rig is not folding, and then some!

Do you care what platform theyre run on?

I have 64 cores (4 x 16). Would that help? I don't need any payback, but I can't remove cpu's. These would be on 6272 Interlagos.

Adak said:

I have 64 cores (4 x 16). Would that help? I don't need any payback, but I can't remove cpu's. These would be on 6272 Interlagos.

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Each benchmark you run with 64 cores would be worth about 50 team points by my estimates, even if it is run at stock (team points add directly to the team total, and are especially valuable). 50 points is a lot, most people on our benchmarking team don't have any single score worth 50 points alone - people who start in our benchmarking team aim for 20 points total from running 10 different benchmarks to gain entry to our private section. So 45 points per bench is big.

In comparison, I hold a world record for 8 core PCMark 2005 - it is the highest score anyone has ever posted on hwbot.org with 8 cores. I used LN2 on CPU and GPU, paired with an $1800 combination of raid controller and SSDs. It was worth 69 team points. So its hard to put up scores worth big points usually, but if you have a ton of processors like you do - the points are easy if you just run the benches.

If you can disable sockets to also run 16, 32, and 48, each of those would be worth as much, or slightly less for each benchmark run.

TC said:

Do you care what platform theyre run on?

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I don't personally, but only windows based submissions are accepted at hwbot. That is the hard part for folders, because most of you aren't running windows, and installing it takes time.

I'll double check, but the cpu's are auto detected by the BIOS, now. I'm not sure if that can be changed.

I'll start making the changes.

That would rock! Thanks!

Well, what I meant was amd or intel, plus Im not sure how youd get some of those core counts like 10,20,40 - what combination yields those numbers?

Is this time sensitive? Ive been waiting forever for a second heatsink to show up from backorder. At which time I can do 12, 20 and 24 core. At the moment Im only capable of 12 core and cant get to it till Monday Tuesday at the earliest.

EDIT - TC I have a 12 and 8 core chip for 20 cores, just waiting on a heat sink for the second cpu. I actually have 2 different 12 core chips and 1 8 core.

Ah sorry, platform doesn't matter much - either platform can score well, if you can get the right number of physical cores.

Here are some example CPUs for each processor count:
10x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=10#start=0#interval=20
16x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=16#start=0#interval=20
20x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=20#start=0#interval=20
24x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=24#start=0#interval=20
32x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=32#start=0#interval=20
40x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=40#start=0#interval=20
48x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=48#start=0#interval=20
64x: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/wprime_32m/rankings?cores=64#start=0#interval=20

OpenFriday said:

Is this time sensitive? Ive been waiting forever for a second heatsink to show up from backorder. At which time I can do 12, 20 and 24 core. At the moment Im only capable of 12 core and cant get to it till Monday Tuesday at the earliest.

EDIT - TC I have a 12 and 8 core chip for 20 cores, just waiting on a heat sink for the second cpu. I actually have 2 different 12 core chips and 1 8 core.

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Nope, not time sensitive at all. These points add to our ranking in the teams leauge, where we are currently ranked 13th in the world. This is an ongoing competition much like the Folding team rankings. We are aiming for top 10 currently, which we'll need about 1500 points to achieve and we're climbing slowly but surely.

This is our team page which shows our team score:
http://hwbot.org/team/overclockers.com/

This is our ranking against other teams in the leauge:
http://hwbot.org/league/teams

Few teams have these sorts of team points for high core count processor. As I know we have the hardware here and the skill to easily put up a new OS to run the benches, its sort of like picking the low hanging fruit. These benchmarks are worth a lot of points to encourage people to run them - usually things on hwbot are worth a lot of point when there's a lot of competition and you beat a lot of people. So these rankings for many processor benchmarks are sort of uniquely valuable.

By the way Open Friday, you can run 2 instances of cpuz for the screenshot if you use mismatched processors - by right clicking on the cpuz window, you can select which CPU is detected. That way CPUs can be seen to confirm how many cores were used.

Operative word being *physical* cores? No hyperthreading or bulldozer? Actually some of those results are using hyperthreading.

Yup, physical cores is what the rankings go by. Bulldozer counts as physical cores - the fx-8120/8150 counts as 8 cores. Hyperthreading does not count as physical cores.

However, if you are using hyperthreading, for wprime you manually set the number of processors by clicking advanced settings - you typically get the best scores on HT cpus by setting the same number of threads as you have logical cores (10 core CPU with HT should run 20 threads in wprime for best scores).

The submissions are verified manually - sometimes submissions are made incorrectly so there might be submission that don't include the correct number of cores.

Bulldozer counts? Thats odd because that uses amd's spin on shared resources like hyperthreading. 16 thread bulldozer is an 8 physical core piece, the 12 thread is 6 cores, etc.

Went to download Win Server 2008 and you must have a Windows Live ID. Go to sign up, not too cracked about giving out my email address, but it says "We are unable to complete your request due to technical difficulties. Please try again later." Too rich.

TC said:

Bulldozer counts? Thats odd because that uses amd's spin on shared resources like hyperthreading. 16 thread bulldozer is an 8 physical core piece, the 12 thread is 6 cores, etc.

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That is very arguable, and depends on how you define a physical core in light of how bulldozer does resource sharing - I'm not saying I would argue with you, but many people wouldn't see it that way. Each bulldozer unit consists of 2 integer cores and 1 FPU.

If you believe a core is only a core if it has a dedicated FPU, then bulldozer has half as many cores as they state they do.

However, it is very little like hyperthreading. Hyperthreading is purely a logical approach, Bulldozer is a physical approach.

@Macaholic: I have problems with anything related to windows live - I think I had to get an ID to get MSN messenger (someone at work uses it), what a pain.

Sorry, also no go. They need your business particulars: , address, phone number, street address, etc.

I'm retired.

Home address for personal testing? They are only gathering that to send you "promotional" mail, or sell the list to someone else to send you junk mail, maybe just fill something in?

Better yet, this is now "iNet Interactive" business, as you are running these benchmarks at my request. You can use their address details:

iNET Interactive
9100 West Chester Towne Centre Road
Suite 200
West Chester, OH 45069

Well I should have 8 cores available to run these been looking at the bot should be able to get 8-10 GL points on wprime 32m alone I will run the other benches as well.

I.M.O.G. said:

Home address for personal testing? They are only gathering that to send you "promotional" mail, or sell the list to someone else to send you junk mail, maybe just fill something in?

Better yet, this is now "iNet Interactive" business, as you are running these benchmarks at my request. You can use their address details:

iNET Interactive
9100 West Chester Towne Centre Road
Suite 200
West Chester, OH 45069

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Wow is the right word. They ask for a mobile phone number (left it blank) when signing up for Windows Live along with your email. Once you fill that out and verify your email, THEN you have to fill out all the business info as * required fields. I do own my own business, but really? I need more spam and junk mail, yes please. Sigh, that said, the download begins.

2.95 GB iso finally downloaded. I will have to burn it to DVD from my iMac. Roughly how long will it take to install this monstrosity when I get the chance?

Similar to Windows 7, depending mostly on storage speed. I would expect less than an hour if you pay attention to it and move through the prompts quickly - the only important setting that comes to mind is the time setting, the rest of the settings don't matter if you are only using it to complete the benches.

I installed one of the basic server 2008 r2 editions in order to test pcm05 performance compared to vista x64 and win7 x64, and it was very similar to the win7 installation time. I don't expect the different editions take much different time. (vista gave me the best scores so far btw, not that it matters other than being interesting)