tranCendenZ said:
Well the DST differences you pointed out can be disabled.
But while you are on 3dmark05 differences, check out some of the IQ problems with 3dmark05 and ATI cards:
3DMARK05 ATI X800 ARTIFACTS: FOG RENDERING
*** PLEASE OPEN THESE TWO IMAGES IN SEPERATE BROWSER WINDOWS AND SWITCH BACK AND FORTH USING ALT TAB AND EXAMINE THE AREA IN THE RED OUTLINE
NOTE the failure to render all of the fog in the ATI screenshot
EXAMPLE 1
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 66.70 Beta
ATI X800XTPE 4.9
Reference Rasterizer image
EXAMPLE 2
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 66.81 Beta
ATI X800XTPE 8.07
Reference Rasterizer image
Source: Beyond3D.com & NvNews.net forums
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3DMARK05 ATI X800 ARTIFACTS: FILTERING/MOIRE
*** PLEASE OPEN THESE TWO IMAGES IN SEPERATE BROWSER WINDOWS AND SWITCH BACK AND FORTH USING ALT TAB AND EXAMINE THE AREAS IN THE RED OUTLINES
NOTE the obvious moire patterns in the ATI screenshots
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 66.51 Beta Application AF
ATI X800XTPE 4.9 w/ hotfix Application AF
Source: Bjorn3d.com
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3DMARK05 ATI X800 ARTIFACTS: BANDING
*** PLEASE OPEN THESE TWO IMAGES IN SEPERATE BROWSER WINDOWS AND SWITCH BACK AND FORTH USING ALT TAB AND EXAMINE THE AREA IN THE RED OUTLINE
NOTE the increased banding in the sky in the ATI screenshots
Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra 66.51 Beta
ATI X800XTPE 8.07 Beta
Closeup of ATI's banding from above shot
Source: Driverheaven.net
when your going to post facts about this test, please include ALL the FACTS.
like how there is not one driver for any IHV at this time, that is official for anything but the default tests.
how about that all the test pics you show are using the app and not the CP of the cards....
btw, when using the CP for ATI cards, all banding and IQ problems are gone.
(I'm still wondering about the fog issue as I don't seem to have this problem...
and it looks like the fud that was started about aquamark bench, and I don't have problems with missing smoke in that as well.)
then why don't you talk about how even microsoft says you will never get an image the same as the rasterizer on any card in all parts...it's just not possable with all the filtering going on with the cards anyway.
then there is your thoughts on DTS....
since DTS is not now, or ever will be part of DX9.0 in any way, shape, or form, because it is a vender specific extension and not part of SM2.0 or SM3.0
so in turn, because of DTS, 3dmark05 is no longer a DX9.0 benchmark, and is now a game benchmark that does not use any game engine....lame.
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the reason I've even done this investgation thread is because I've seen tons of threads on this topic such as nVnews, bjorn3d, and others.
many of them are not investigating anything, but spouting gosip and rumors.
even if they have been proven wrong.
btw, bjorn3d has already shown that they didn't use the same AA setting on the ATI and nVidia cards....realy lame.
you also failed to note that the author of bjorn3d could not get 3dmark05 to work with AA when set in the CP, so he thought it was the same way for ATI.
(again, lower IQ results for both cards will result when done in the GUI instead of the CP in this tests...again, isn't that crazy?)
you also don't note that not one person could find any more banding in the sky pic with a ATI card, as compared to nVidia...both have realy, realy, realy, small amounts of banding...just in differant spots.
(again, you'll get no banding if done in the CP of the card(s)...and no driver is verifide for anything but the default test.)
I will repeat my self, nVidia is not cheating in this test due to DTS...this is a problem that futurmark needs to anser to if you ask me.
I could go on and on, but at least you show where you got your information from...(or lack of it.)
I would post links, or quotes from the threads from them forums, but it would be a waste of time....and anyone here can easily look it up to see how truthfull I've been.
I agree with cowboyX, you could start another thread, as it seems you just want to start something, and not post all the facts in order to help others.
but I at least understand why futurmark wants to use DTS as a feature...
you see, many games that will come out will use it.
in fact, Farcry uses it too.
guess what pics are ATI and what are nVidia.
oooopps,
BTW, WELCOME TO THE FORUMS.
mica