So I'm looking to do a new build. I'm planning to pick up one of Silicon Lottery's 5.2Ghz binned 8700k and put it in a Maximus X Formula. I only get to do this once in a while so I am going to indulge. My current build is a 3770k OC'd to 4.6 and a nice set of 4x8 GSkill Ripjaws at 2400mhz, maxing out the Maximus.
The most intensive CPU based activity I do is I am a Lockheed Martin's Prepar3d enthusiast. I have over 2TB of photoscenery. I spread the display over 3 1080p monitors. Prepar3d is very much a CPU limited program. I have 2 GTX 780 in SLI and the most demanded out of them is at best 50% with everything high. So I'm moving them over until Volta or Ampere or Turing comes out before snagging a 1080ti at an outragous price and then regretting it.
One of the reasons I believe my system held out for so long is because of the memory choice. Prepar3d can be a very data heavy program as well, often hitting OOMs before the 64bit version came out. There is a lot of data constantly going between CPU and RAM; I think Prepar3d is one of the few programs where RAM can make a significant difference.
The other use for this PC is a couple of VMs, some development, and as I have now maybe over 200 tabs open in Chrome. I need RAM. 32GB seems to be good enough. But I also use a RAM caching programe, PrimoCache, which significantly speeds up loading off the disks.
So I want to find the fastest RAM within a high but not crazy budget. I don't do this every day, but I'm trying to understand the Frequency and Latency Ballance, and even started making charts of timings and real times in nano seconds to compare RAM specs. ... I am lost. I can't seem to find a formula out there that actually makes sense to me, especially my OCD mode which I am in now.
To start off, can anyone make sense of this guys TT/Cycles on the last column of his chart? He says it's really important, but doesn't explain how he gets it, and I can't seem to duplicate it :/ I'm very angry with him.
I have a small chart that shows somewhat performance in terms of frequency and latency for what is available in 64GB kits. From what I can tell it's best to go with 2x16 dual kit now since I might wish to expand to 64 total in the future. Is there any benefit to 4x8 in terms of performance? I am understanding that 4x8 may be a little less stable for OC on both RAM and CPU as it puts a little more stress somewhere. And something about copy times. So 2x16 seems advisable, especially for expansion. The only fear I have with that path is I understand that there is no guarantee that another identical 2x16 kit will work with the first one. Is that true?
The 64GB availability chart is only showing what iI've seen on Newegg and is showing me a sweet spot for 3600 CL16 range. But this only accounts for CL, not the other timing measurments like my friends video above.
Since this kind of spending is only allowed by the wife when I can prove it's a worthwhile upgrade, I get to indulge a little bit. I "need" the new system to keep with with the demands of Prepar3d in VR, and to be able to let her play games without too much frustration tweaking this old dinosaur to play smoothly. So I can spend a little bit more on memory for that little bit extra speed. I know the real ticket is to go to a different chip with quad RAM ability, but for Prepar3d it's more bound on the core 1 than anywhere else and so more speed is the main line to performance gains, thus 5.2 binned. Plus I might be allowed to put in some cooling to push it a little bit more. What RAM should I get to match that investment? Mom says it's OK (within reason).
Thanks!
The most intensive CPU based activity I do is I am a Lockheed Martin's Prepar3d enthusiast. I have over 2TB of photoscenery. I spread the display over 3 1080p monitors. Prepar3d is very much a CPU limited program. I have 2 GTX 780 in SLI and the most demanded out of them is at best 50% with everything high. So I'm moving them over until Volta or Ampere or Turing comes out before snagging a 1080ti at an outragous price and then regretting it.
One of the reasons I believe my system held out for so long is because of the memory choice. Prepar3d can be a very data heavy program as well, often hitting OOMs before the 64bit version came out. There is a lot of data constantly going between CPU and RAM; I think Prepar3d is one of the few programs where RAM can make a significant difference.
The other use for this PC is a couple of VMs, some development, and as I have now maybe over 200 tabs open in Chrome. I need RAM. 32GB seems to be good enough. But I also use a RAM caching programe, PrimoCache, which significantly speeds up loading off the disks.
So I want to find the fastest RAM within a high but not crazy budget. I don't do this every day, but I'm trying to understand the Frequency and Latency Ballance, and even started making charts of timings and real times in nano seconds to compare RAM specs. ... I am lost. I can't seem to find a formula out there that actually makes sense to me, especially my OCD mode which I am in now.
To start off, can anyone make sense of this guys TT/Cycles on the last column of his chart? He says it's really important, but doesn't explain how he gets it, and I can't seem to duplicate it :/ I'm very angry with him.
I have a small chart that shows somewhat performance in terms of frequency and latency for what is available in 64GB kits. From what I can tell it's best to go with 2x16 dual kit now since I might wish to expand to 64 total in the future. Is there any benefit to 4x8 in terms of performance? I am understanding that 4x8 may be a little less stable for OC on both RAM and CPU as it puts a little more stress somewhere. And something about copy times. So 2x16 seems advisable, especially for expansion. The only fear I have with that path is I understand that there is no guarantee that another identical 2x16 kit will work with the first one. Is that true?
The 64GB availability chart is only showing what iI've seen on Newegg and is showing me a sweet spot for 3600 CL16 range. But this only accounts for CL, not the other timing measurments like my friends video above.
Since this kind of spending is only allowed by the wife when I can prove it's a worthwhile upgrade, I get to indulge a little bit. I "need" the new system to keep with with the demands of Prepar3d in VR, and to be able to let her play games without too much frustration tweaking this old dinosaur to play smoothly. So I can spend a little bit more on memory for that little bit extra speed. I know the real ticket is to go to a different chip with quad RAM ability, but for Prepar3d it's more bound on the core 1 than anywhere else and so more speed is the main line to performance gains, thus 5.2 binned. Plus I might be allowed to put in some cooling to push it a little bit more. What RAM should I get to match that investment? Mom says it's OK (within reason).
Thanks!
