I've only mounted an orb twice. Once on a friends machine and once on mine. Both times I felt they required FAR too much force to hook the clips on the ZIF socket. Consequently, when I booted my machine afterwards I fried my T-bird 1.2 because I damaged the core when I mounted it (assuming, its the only thing that makes sense) Thank god the CPU was only a week old and I got it replaced, without going into detail of how I did it of course The clip system is the one that uses all three hooks on each side of the ZIF socket, which I think most the orbs use. There is little to no movement of that tensioner being that its so short. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I'm up and running again with a retail HSF and not really thinking I want to try and put that orb back on!