PC Windows - Apple ios - Android easy file transfer over wifi/internet

[techiemon]

I am looking for an APP and a software package that can be installed to all three system. PC Windows - Apple IOS and Android systems that I can share files across all platforms to any other device quickly and efficiently through the APP.

For example, I use a PC and my wife asks me to take a file from her usb pen to transfer to her by Whatsapp so she can send the file to her colleague. It gets ridiculous. I want a software that I can install to all three devices and just click drag and drop the files to any other device quickly over wifi or an internet connection using something secure.

I prefer a free app as I will not use it that often. I have seen some that use an internet browser to transfer things to a cloud, but it seems they are paid and not easy to use.

So I would like some suggestions. No I am not going to set up a network. And no, I am not going to use a cloud storage for this. This is simple transferring files, not storing them.

Thanks.

 

[habbajabba]

Jami is free and works on every platform and is totally secure.
https://jami.net/
F-droid hosts it

 

[techiemon]

Jami is free and works on every platform and is totally secure.
https://jami.net/
F-droid hosts it

I actually did see and read your first message before you deleted it. But the torrents are way too complex and a nightmare to set up. Jami looks much better, and something similar to skype for example that can be used across multiple platforms and files can be shared with people fast and easily through any internet connection anywhere around the world. The only problem is everyone has their own account, it would be good for some, but not for all. For me, I just need a place to share things, especially between my wife and I, she always asks me to use the USB and then download and then use whatsapp to transfer the file so she can send it to colleagues on another platform, it gets annoying. If she has this on each place, she can probably share things with herself. or through my account and then download it on the other platform.

It seems secure, but I need to go find ratings of this company to make sure they are legit, because I have never heard of them. This company just seems like another skype, Line, Whatsapp or Wechat, Telegram type of a company. Am I right? The only difference I feel is that there are no servers to save our data and so they have no record of what we send, which is good for privacy.

 

[habbajabba]

It was called Ring, as in a secure calling ap replacement. It is totally secure and fortunately has nothing whatsoever to do with the likes of MS skype tripe, facebook whatsapcrap, or any other corporate entity. It is what it says on the tin. Secure and private communications. Now if I only knew more tech minded people I could actually use it myself.
Yes everyone will have to install it. It is sad that in the so-called modern age of communications and technology where just about everyone on earth has a "smartphone", actual networking done EASILY, securely, AND privately is somehow a sham scam of relying on corporations who do everything they can to erode not only your privacy but your security. So no wonder your hesitation. I'm sure google will fix you right up but that route is much the same. Everyone has to get on board. The only difference is google is but a middleman (with no privacy and less security) and Jami removes that altogether but keeps both your privacy AND security.
If all you do is share files it should work quite well imo. Video calling with encryption would of course be subject to the actual network speeds incl. that of the devices themselves.
I deleted that post by accident as I was on my phone. Torrents would work but that would really require everyone to be fully schooled beforehand. Jami just requires installation and familiarity. I used it very briefly with my family when it was still just Ring. My family is not tech savvy so that lasted about a second.

 

[techiemon]

It was called Ring, as in a secure calling ap replacement. It is totally secure and fortunately has nothing whatsoever to do with the likes of MS skype tripe, facebook whatsapcrap, or any other corporate entity. It is what it says on the tin. Secure and private communications. Now if I only knew more tech minded people I could actually use it myself.
Yes everyone will have to install it. It is sad that in the so-called modern age of communications and technology where just about everyone on earth has a "smartphone", actual networking done EASILY, securely, AND privately is somehow a sham scam of relying on corporations who do everything they can to erode not only your privacy but your security. So no wonder your hesitation. I'm sure google will fix you right up but that route is much the same. Everyone has to get on board. The only difference is google is but a middleman (with no privacy and less security) and Jami removes that altogether but keeps both your privacy AND security.
If all you do is share files it should work quite well imo. Video calling with encryption would of course be subject to the actual network speeds incl. that of the devices themselves.
I deleted that post by accident as I was on my phone. Torrents would work but that would really require everyone to be fully schooled beforehand. Jami just requires installation and familiarity. I used it very briefly with my family when it was still just Ring. My family is not tech savvy so that lasted about a second.

Well you hit the nail on the head there. Security and Privacy are the utmost important. Especially if sending sensitive files or confidential things over the internet. Whatscrap, Linecrap, Skypecrap, Wecrap, they are all crap indeed, someone is watching you whether it is the government or the company, and it is something I absolutely can no longer tolerate. The sad thing is that the mainstream ones, are of course main stream and popular, so everyone using them. But something like Jami, probably few use. If there is a better one, let me know, but this may just be the right tool for some people in my group, like my family. I may use it for voice and calls also with other people. I also do not like these tools that are owned by these companies, my concern is eventually Jami may also be bought out and then there goes security. I would rather use something not torrent anyway, and me figuring it out and others figuring it out may be a problem. I will download Jami and give it a try and see how it goes.

The only interesting thing is that why only 50,000 people have downloaded it? Even Slack seems more popular....

Do you happen to know the file size limitation for Jami?

 

[knoober]

The underlying service you want for transferring files is already available on all platforms : ftp (file transfer protocol) . The bigger/better/newer version is sftp (SECURE ftp) is also standard across platforms. Most anything that you find for any platform will simply be a gui for using sftp (not really sure, educated guess though). Filezilla works on Android, Linux, and Windows, but I don't think has Apple support. You may be able to build it from source though, if that is your wheelhouse. Even if it is not available, any iPhone sftp client would theoretically work as long as you have the device IP assigned by DHCP on your router and credentials to access the device. You honestly could probably write a small script to do the work if you are command line savvy, but the gui/front-end will make it a true drag and drop experience as opposed to knowing file paths (which I understand is not what you would like). If nothing else, try adding "sftp client" to your search terms and it might help you find something that does what you want on all your devices

 

[techiemon]

The underlying service you want for transferring files is already available on all platforms : ftp (file transfer protocol) . The bigger/better/newer version is sftp (SECURE ftp) is also standard across platforms. Most anything that you find for any platform will simply be a gui for using sftp (not really sure, educated guess though). Filezilla works on Android, Linux, and Windows, but I don't think has Apple support. You may be able to build it from source though, if that is your wheelhouse. Even if it is not available, any iPhone sftp client would theoretically work as long as you have the device IP assigned by DHCP on your router and credentials to access the device. You honestly could probably write a small script to do the work if you are command line savvy, but the gui/front-end will make it a true drag and drop experience as opposed to knowing file paths (which I understand is not what you would like). If nothing else, try adding "sftp client" to your search terms and it might help you find something that does what you want on all your devices

I am in no way a programmer, so all of that, forget it. It is too difficult. The package has to be stand alone and ready for use. I have no time or patience to learn any protocol or language. And that wasn't really my question in my last post anyway...

My only concern was really how secure is it, because not many people use it. But there could be lots of reasons for that.

And no file size written anywhere, so I assume there isn't one.

 

[Janus67]

What about something simple like Google drive/Dropbox/etc?

 

[habbajabba]

That would require, for simple privacy sake, everyone to encrypt everything first. So then everyone has to pass around the 'keys' just in order to keep the privacy. Jami removes that task.
Savoir-faire Linux Inc. is a specialist and leader in open source software engineering since 1999.
Jami is the evolution of the GNU / Ring project, which has become known as a high priority project of the Free Software Foundation, responding to the challenges of privacy on the Internet. Developed by Savoir-faire Linux, Jami takes advantage of an active development community thanks to the support of young Google Summer of Code developers as well as research partnerships with Polytechnique Montréal and the Université du Québec à Montréal.
Aimed at the general public as well as professionals, Jami provides all its users a universal communication tool, autonomous, free, secure and built on a distributed architecture thus requiring no authority or central server to function.
So basically if both users are connected to the net, even if google or whoever becomes unresponsive, suffers an outage, or is compromised, it will not affect jami.
I think it is like a self supporting entity. You use it you are part of it. You don't use it, you are left blowing in the wind relying on some corporate behemoth's wims.
That in a nutshell to me is collaboration, networking, and social networking. Everything else is a lie. FFS, the general public can't even make a private call these days-what a joke.
Obviously if everyone were programmers and whatnot it could be done with sftp or ssh or whatever. I never wanted to program because I always knew the code would forever be changing. Jami is built on inherent trust via the decentralized encryption process. Google is built on trusting google and their infamous "google is your friend' total lie.
Filezilla works great if everyone is a network engineer. It's too complicated to get Annie on board with unless you do all the work for her.

 

[techiemon]

That would require, for simple privacy sake, everyone to encrypt everything first. So then everyone has to pass around the 'keys' just in order to keep the privacy. Jami removes that task.
Savoir-faire Linux Inc. is a specialist and leader in open source software engineering since 1999.
Jami is the evolution of the GNU / Ring project, which has become known as a high priority project of the Free Software Foundation, responding to the challenges of privacy on the Internet. Developed by Savoir-faire Linux, Jami takes advantage of an active development community thanks to the support of young Google Summer of Code developers as well as research partnerships with Polytechnique Montréal and the Université du Québec à Montréal.
Aimed at the general public as well as professionals, Jami provides all its users a universal communication tool, autonomous, free, secure and built on a distributed architecture thus requiring no authority or central server to function.
So basically if both users are connected to the net, even if google or whoever becomes unresponsive, suffers an outage, or is compromised, it will not affect jami.
I think it is like a self supporting entity. You use it you are part of it. You don't use it, you are left blowing in the wind relying on some corporate behemoth's wims.
That in a nutshell to me is collaboration, networking, and social networking. Everything else is a lie. FFS, the general public can't even make a private call these days-what a joke.
Obviously if everyone were programmers and whatnot it could be done with sftp or ssh or whatever. I never wanted to program because I always knew the code would forever be changing. Jami is built on inherent trust via the decentralized encryption process. Google is built on trusting google and their infamous "google is your friend' total lie.
Filezilla works great if everyone is a network engineer. It's too complicated to get Annie on board with unless you do all the work for her.

I have downloaded and tried Jami, and also contacted them, the way it works is so great, there are no servers between the devices, if one user is not logged in or offline, the file sits on the local persons device until the other person logs in and then it sends it. Genius and no BS. FAST no file limits, excellent. I wish I could get more people on board with using it, but it just doesn't have all those bells and sticker whistles that everyone, especially the girls, love.. so.. I will use it for myself and my family for the time being, really a great piece of software!

 

[wagex]

Do you run a home server? If you do you might look into nexcloud or owncloud, self hosted is the best hosted... except for email, that is a nightmare you should never even bother attempting.

 

[techiemon]

Do you run a home server? If you do you might look into nexcloud or owncloud, self hosted is the best hosted... except for email, that is a nightmare you should never even bother attempting.

Nope, I don't, and don't want to set one up either. I was going to do the email server thing about 10 years ago, and then after researching the troublesome things with security, I gave up completely. And I don't need a server at home actually. So Jami actually works wonders just for file transferring back and forth it is good.

 

[wagex]

Glad you found a good solution.

Perhaps If you have found and are happy with a solution, mark the thread as solved.

 

[techiemon]

Glad you found a good solution.

Perhaps If you have found and are happy with a solution, mark the thread as solved.

And how do we do that, just post a message that says "Solved" ?

 

[wagex]

And how do we do that, just post a message that says "Solved" ?

thread tools > mark as solved.

 

[techiemon]

thread tools > mark as solved.

Hmm maybe because of my ranking, I don't have that option under thread tools.

 

[wagex]

yeah, the mods are looking into that, for some reason no one but newbies can mark threads as solved. sorry about that.

 

[techiemon]

Well guys I think I need more solutions... Jami I thought was good, but lately I feel it is not working. Not only do both people have to be online at the same time, but even then it doesn't work well. Contacted customer support many times, since initial emails, they have not replied in weeks. Even sending photos now are not going through, even when both devices are on and logged in. I am disappointed, I thought this app was going to be fantastic, but it has turned out to be a bit of a dud for file sharing. Texting seems to be ok, but file sending, that's another story. Other suggestions?