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Hi all,
I'm new to the forum and this whole overclocking business, have only Soft-CPUed a Celeron 300A before.
Recently I've started converting .avi movies to VCDs, quite fun but it requires alot of CPU force. I need a new computer for this task, but I'm short of cash. The conversion program I'm using is "TMPGenc" and supports multiple CPUs. I raced an AMD Duron 800 against a Dual Celeron 433 using this program and the Dual Celeron beat the Duron 800 by around 35%. So I'm going to go for the Dual solution.
But I'll want to overclock the CPUs to get even more use of them, but for this I'll need some help from you all.
I'm not really into the computer thing, so I'll be asking alot of stupid questions. For starters I've read all posts on the forum regarding Celerons. I've seen alot of different variations in Celerons. There are apparently two main sets of these CPUs, both Celeron and Celeron II. I checked Intel's site regarding "Celeron II" but came up with nothing, I'm guessing this is an unofficial term. Hoping someone can explain the difference. Then I've seen the stepping thingies "cC0" , "cB0" and "cD0", get the feeling cC0 is better suited for overclocking. Then there are some variations regarding some CPUs (only PIII?) called "E" and "EB" , haven't figured this out yet, doesn't seem to apply to Celerons. Then there are "FCPGA" and "FCPGA2". Haven't figured this out either. Thought this was the same as 66/100/133 MHz BUS, but that theory doesn't quite add up. And about the FSB (Front Side Buffer?) I get the impression that this can be altered using some kind of software. But I read on a page that the motherboard, RAM and all PCI and AGP cards can be affected by the alteration of the FSB, causing them to malfunction. Is this true? Would it be possible to get a Celeron running at 133Mhz FSB without any of the other hardware taking damage? Or would that be tweaking the FSB too much?
Most of this is voodoo to me right now and some of you are probably having a good laugh, but I really need to learn this in order to get the most out of my new system.
I don't know which CPU to get due to the above mentioned variations in CPUs.
I've got two stores near me where I can get some discount. Seing how I can't afford a Dual PIII machine and AMD (at least Duron) processors don't go well with the conversion program (hangs), I guess I'm stuck with Celerons as the only option.
Store # 1 has the following to sell me:
CELERON 700 - FCPGA 100MHz
CELERON 800 - FCPGA 100MHz
CELERON 900 - FCPGA 100MHz
Store #2 has only this :
CELERON II 900
Not a lot of information on them, but perhaps you can tell me which one of these CPUs I can expect to get the best overclocking results from.
I'll also be purchasing a new Dual motherboard to go with the CPUs. If anyone has any board to recommend, that would be great.
From my old computer I'll be salvaging the RAM (PC133), a bit sad that the Celerons are just 100MHz... erm... right?
*Sigh* .... I'm SO out of my league here.
I know overclocking isn't an exact science and that results vary, but any help is grately appreciated as I know very little on this matter. Also if someone could tell me what kind of steps are necessary to acheive the best results, i.e. cooling, tweaky-software and such.
Hoping for some help,
/Vassandra
I'm new to the forum and this whole overclocking business, have only Soft-CPUed a Celeron 300A before.
Recently I've started converting .avi movies to VCDs, quite fun but it requires alot of CPU force. I need a new computer for this task, but I'm short of cash. The conversion program I'm using is "TMPGenc" and supports multiple CPUs. I raced an AMD Duron 800 against a Dual Celeron 433 using this program and the Dual Celeron beat the Duron 800 by around 35%. So I'm going to go for the Dual solution.
But I'll want to overclock the CPUs to get even more use of them, but for this I'll need some help from you all.
I'm not really into the computer thing, so I'll be asking alot of stupid questions. For starters I've read all posts on the forum regarding Celerons. I've seen alot of different variations in Celerons. There are apparently two main sets of these CPUs, both Celeron and Celeron II. I checked Intel's site regarding "Celeron II" but came up with nothing, I'm guessing this is an unofficial term. Hoping someone can explain the difference. Then I've seen the stepping thingies "cC0" , "cB0" and "cD0", get the feeling cC0 is better suited for overclocking. Then there are some variations regarding some CPUs (only PIII?) called "E" and "EB" , haven't figured this out yet, doesn't seem to apply to Celerons. Then there are "FCPGA" and "FCPGA2". Haven't figured this out either. Thought this was the same as 66/100/133 MHz BUS, but that theory doesn't quite add up. And about the FSB (Front Side Buffer?) I get the impression that this can be altered using some kind of software. But I read on a page that the motherboard, RAM and all PCI and AGP cards can be affected by the alteration of the FSB, causing them to malfunction. Is this true? Would it be possible to get a Celeron running at 133Mhz FSB without any of the other hardware taking damage? Or would that be tweaking the FSB too much?
Most of this is voodoo to me right now and some of you are probably having a good laugh, but I really need to learn this in order to get the most out of my new system.
I don't know which CPU to get due to the above mentioned variations in CPUs.
I've got two stores near me where I can get some discount. Seing how I can't afford a Dual PIII machine and AMD (at least Duron) processors don't go well with the conversion program (hangs), I guess I'm stuck with Celerons as the only option.
Store # 1 has the following to sell me:
CELERON 700 - FCPGA 100MHz
CELERON 800 - FCPGA 100MHz
CELERON 900 - FCPGA 100MHz
Store #2 has only this :
CELERON II 900
Not a lot of information on them, but perhaps you can tell me which one of these CPUs I can expect to get the best overclocking results from.
I'll also be purchasing a new Dual motherboard to go with the CPUs. If anyone has any board to recommend, that would be great.
From my old computer I'll be salvaging the RAM (PC133), a bit sad that the Celerons are just 100MHz... erm... right?
*Sigh* .... I'm SO out of my league here.
I know overclocking isn't an exact science and that results vary, but any help is grately appreciated as I know very little on this matter. Also if someone could tell me what kind of steps are necessary to acheive the best results, i.e. cooling, tweaky-software and such.
Hoping for some help,
/Vassandra