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    4Gb 5970 VS. 4Gb 5970 Which design is better?

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/CeBIT...0-136378.shtml

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/ROG-A...5-135935.shtml

    Thought I would start a discussion about this because I definitely plan on getting one of these. My main question is which one would be better? Would the asus's 2x256 bit interface help pull ahead of the sapphire?

    Anyway let the "these cards are overkill" comments begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Younglin View Post
    Anyway let the "these cards are overkill" comments begin.
    It is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the title :P

    I can't really comment, but 2x256 sounds really fast.. I thought every 5970 had 2x256. Anyway the Sapphire has sick cooling and will probably get better overclocks.
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    They both have 2x256bit memory buses, it's just the Eyefinity edition has 2GB of memory per GPU. This card is best if you plan to game at 1920x1200 or higher with high levels of AA and AF on, otherwise it's a bit pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neural Net View Post
    They both have 2x256bit memory buses, it's just the Eyefinity edition has 2GB of memory per GPU. This card is best if you plan to game at 1920x1200 or higher with high levels of AA and AF on, otherwise it's a bit pointless.
    Even 1920x1200 is ridiculous in my opinion. 2560x1600 is the minimum. But really this 4GB is like you said for a nice Eyefinity setup.
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    DUDE. i vote the Asus card for sure!
    the cooler just looks so much more appealing, both in shape and colour.
    the Sapphire's cooler does look more effective...but i would still take the Asus.
    if you're worried about cooling if you overclock it...who needs to overclock a 5970
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich'[ard] View Post
    DUDE. i vote the Asus card for sure!
    the cooler just looks so much more appealing, both in shape and colour.
    the Sapphire's cooler does look more effective...but i would still take the Asus.
    if you're worried about cooling if you overclock it...who needs to overclock a 5970
    Well, if you play DirectX 11 games at 7680x1600 you'll love that extra speed. Perhaps you even need it. I seen someone play 7680x1600 DiRT 2 with one XFX 5970 2GB Black Edition and he had to turn DirectX 11 off and go back to 9 because it was too hard on the GPU and not getting well enough frames. Even if it was a 4GB it would still be pushing it. Let alone future games. And I think DiRT 2 isn't even a demanding game compared to some other titles out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baris_ View Post
    Even 1920x1200 is ridiculous in my opinion. 2560x1600 is the minimum. But really this 4GB is like you said for a nice Eyefinity setup.
    Well, with a 1GB card at 1920x1200 you'll run out of memory if you slap on 8xAA. I kind of agree with what you're saying though, at 1920x1200 technically there is a benefit, but this could be done by a 2GB 5870 if such a thing existed. This is really made for Eyefinity.
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    when are these being released?

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    That Asus card is a beast.. But it sure looks friggin' sweet!

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    I'll probably go with the sapphire. I'm going to put it underwater and definitely will be overlocking. I'm going to run 3 x 2560 x1600 so I need as much power as possible. Once the price drops I'll get a second and run crossfire. =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Younglin View Post
    I'll probably go with the sapphire. I'm going to put it underwater and definitely will be overlocking. I'm going to run 3 x 2560 x1600 so I need as much power as possible. Once the price drops I'll get a second and run crossfire. =]
    With 3x 2560x1600 you will indeed, want a card like this. If you're removing the cooling anyway.. just go with the cheapest (if there is a difference in price).
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    With 3x 2560x1600 you will indeed, want a card like this. If you're removing the cooling anyway.. just go with the cheapest (if there is a difference in price).
    I'm undecided. I will be water cooling so I don't really care about the cooler. I like the asus because I'm sure it has good overclocking. Although i want the sapphire as well because they usually have great quality.

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    ohh...if you're taking the cooler off it's a different story. i voted the Asus purely because it had a better looking heatsink.

    the sapphire card seems to have a higher stock OC. so there may be more headroom if you OC further.
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    Make sure the Asus card has some kind of heatsinks on the RAM. The render looked like it does but trust me you want to be sure. My 1GB Asus HD 4850 cant run at stock memory speeds because they have no heatsinks.
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    Make sure the Asus card has some kind of heatsinks on the RAM. The render looked like it does but trust me you want to be sure. My 1GB Asus HD 4850 cant run at stock memory speeds because they have no heatsinks.
    Doesn't really matter. If I was using the stock cooler then I would care, but I'm putting a water block on it and going for 1Ghz

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    Full coverage water block? If not you'll still need to sink the RAM and don't forget about the VRMs which get super-hot.

    Either card will have equal potential (just luck of the draw), and you can always flash to the best BIOS around if you want to later. With that you should be able to adjust voltages to max the card out.
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    Full coverage water block? If not you'll still need to sink the RAM and don't forget about the VRMs which get super-hot.

    Either card will have equal potential (just luck of the draw), and you can always flash to the best BIOS around if you want to later. With that you should be able to adjust voltages to max the card out.
    Yeah I'll run it on air until I get a block that covers everything thenput it under water. And I plan on hitting 1Gnz core and 1500mhz memory. (Or as high as I can get without killing it) And eventually crossfireing them. =]

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