NZXT Switch 810 water project

AZZA Genesis 9000 water project

I am looking to build a rig which I can upgrade in the future to water cooling if I so choose. So i have come up with this with some help from others on these forums. Will post the WC gear when I have it finalized.

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit OEM
Case: AZZA Genesis 9000B
MoBo: ASUS Maximus V Gene LGA 1155 Intel Z77
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz Quad-Core
HSF: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
GPU: EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB
SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series 128GB
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM
PSU: OCZ Fatal1ty 750W
ODD: ASUS DVD Burner OEM

Fan Cont: 2x Scythe Kaze Master
Fans: 12x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120x25 - 1850 RPM
Top Rad: Coolgate Quad 120mm Ultimate Heat Exchanger
Bot Rad: Coolgate Dual 120mm Ultimate heat Exchanger
Pump: Swiftech MCP35X 12v PWM Controlled Water Pump - Black
Res: XSPC Laing DDC Reservoir Pump Attachment
CPU Block: Bitspower Summit EF CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Ice Red Acrylic
GPU Block: Koolance VID-NX680 GeForce VGA Liquid Cooling Block
SLI Bridge: Enzotech SLI Bridge Fitting Set - Matte Black
Tubing: Danger Den DreamFlex Value Pack - UV Red (1/2" ID x 3/4" OD)
Clamps: 10x Lamptron Elite Aluminum Reusable 3/4" OD - Anodized Deep Red
Fittings: 8x Enzotech G1/4" Barb Fitting - 1/2" ID Matte Black
2x Enzotech G1/4" Thread 90-Degree Rotary Barb Fitting - 1/2" ID Matte Black

The fact that I am still doing research means that i have more questions than aswers at some points in time, this being one of them. So here are a couple questions maybe someone can answer for me.

Do i need a reservoir? If so where would it normally go? I have seen some 5.25" bay reservoirs, are they any good?

Where would be the best place to put the pump?

How exactly would one connect a CPU block and 1-2 GPU blocks, depending on if i CF or not.

Am I still able to CF with a block on each GPU with an mATX or will i need a bigger board with 3 PCI slots?

What exactly is a "multiple loop"?

You need a res, and it goes before the pump in the loop. Physical location doesn't matter for the pump and res, wherever they fit.

For multiple video cards, there's this. This is for Koolance blocks, but other companies offer similar solutions: http://koolance.com/help-video-block-connecting

You'll have an easier time fitting the cards in with watercooling, GPU blocks are typically much more compact than the air coolers.

Multiple loop just means you're running your CPU and your GPU on separate loops. Need a res and a pump for each. This is because GPUs are more tolerant of higher DeltaT (more info on that in the sticky) than CPUs are.

So is it possible to run everything from one pump and one res? Or since i'd be running multiple GPU's and a CPU on water I would pretty much need to go multiple loops?

Also how big of a res would you recommend? like i said i have seen those optical bay res. but i don't know how good they are. I will keep doing some research and post my findings or any other questions i have. thanks for the link btw, very helpful.

I don't think the size of the res particularly matters. It's more for making it much easier to fill and bleed air bubbles out of the loop than actually containing more volume of water, to my understanding.

Read the sticky on DeltaT, that should answer your questions of the advantage between multiple and single loops.

Will do. =]

If you haven't already done so, you should give this thread a read through (and click the links too):

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628092

It'll provide a great intro to watercooling. And if you're murky on some of the details, ask away

I have one question right now that is slowing me down. Does the thickness of a rad make much difference? I see some that are monsters and some are slimmer for better space management. So will a thicker rad produce cooler temps or is a slim rad no different?

Thicker rads provide more cooling power but you'll need bigger/higher static pressure (i.e. louder) fans to push air through them. Look at graphs on SkinneeLabs or MartinLiquidLabs.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...d_Pumps_in_525_Bay_-_Black.html?tl=g30c97s152

Looking at this right now as my pump/res. Any thoughts on it? I would need 2 if I wanted to go multi loop for my CPU and GPU's, correct?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ervoir_Combo_w_D5_Variant_Pump_Installed.html

Also looking at something like this.

Okay. Your getting click happy without uderstanding the basics of WC. Your parts you want to cool are a basic CPU/GPU loop. You only need one pump one loop. I'll toss a cookie you should look at this pump/res setup. best pump on the market, and silent when PWM controlled. You should figure this out after a few weeks of research reading threads, the most recommended pump out there. That's the best way to do this, don't get overexcited.




Swiftech MCP 35x. Awesome pressure. Best. You might want to have MArtinsliquidlab.org bookmarked. Err you should already, it's in the stickies.



Slow down, it's a hobby, no rush.

Thanks for that. Have you had any problems with the top leaking or cracking at all?

Or would you recommend a separate Res?

Nickle/brass top. Nope. I have a fitting at the top to a piece of tubing with a Danger Den fill port for easy filling/bleeding too now.

I changed setup laer after Martins tests. My inlet port is to the top from my second rad, my fillport is on the top side inlet. I changed things around. And added a tube in the res, mentioned in another post here yesterday, and talked about at Martinsliquidlab.org. from last year.

You can't beat this pump, even if you go with a seperate res setup.

Maybe you missed it, my build is in the stickies. That's why you read it ALLLLLL. Se Ya in a week or so. Read and learn.

It's for you too.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6489396&postcount=3

OK so after reading and doing some more research I came up with this parts list. Things may change as I learn more. Just wanted to get a base for my project out there.

Pump

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/r..._PWM_Controlled_Water_Pump_-_Black-Page1.html

Reservoir

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...rvoir_-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168

Top radiator

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...m_Ultimate_Heat_Exchanger_Radiator_CG420.html

Bottom radiator

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...t_Exchanger_Radiator_CG240.html?tl=g30c95s160

CPU block

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ntel_Sockets_LGA_775_1155_1156_1366_2011.html

GPU block

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Water_Block_15020.html?tl=g30c309s1590#blank

Fittings

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7...ting_-_12_ID_BP-BSWP-C01.html?tl=g30c407s1030

Tubing

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...V_Red_PFLEXP10-34-R.html?tl=g30c99s1614#blank

Bottom radiator fans

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Fan_-_1850_RPM_D1225C12B5AP-15_Hot_Item_.html

Might go with cheaper fans not sure yet. So how does this look so far?

These fans, for sure: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...Fan_-_1850_RPM_D1225C12B5AP-15_Hot_Item_.html

For the 140mm rad, I've heard great things about the Prolimatech's with aluminum blades, but they're a bit pricey. Maybe Cougar Vortex fans?

Cheaper and they seem really good. Thanks. I'll change the fans right now.

How pricey are we talking? I will look into both and see which I can afford.

MX5J6 said:

OK so after reading and doing some more research I came up with this parts list. Things may change as I learn more. Just wanted to get a base for my project out there.

Pump

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/r..._PWM_Controlled_Water_Pump_-_Black-Page1.html

Reservoir

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...rvoir_-_Clear_Silver_Black.html?tl=g30c97s168

Single height reses can be a pain. They suck water, causing bubbles and new folks don't consider the bleeding/filling process. How will you fill it easy in a bay? Gonna take 10 fills or so at least as you 'bump the pump', squeeze tubing, tap rads over a 3-5 hour period to initally fill the loop.

Top radiator

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...m_Ultimate_Heat_Exchanger_Radiator_CG420.html

Bottom radiator

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...t_Exchanger_Radiator_CG240.html?tl=g30c95s160

CPU block

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ntel_Sockets_LGA_775_1155_1156_1366_2011.html

GPU block

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._Water_Block_15020.html?tl=g30c309s1590#blank

I don't like those blocks. Can you name the different brands that make a GPU block for that GPU?

Fittings

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7...ting_-_12_ID_BP-BSWP-C01.html?tl=g30c407s1030

Prolly gonna need some 45 degree and 90 drgree fittings too.

Tubing

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...V_Red_PFLEXP10-34-R.html?tl=g30c99s1614#blank

You don't know about the Primoflex plasticizer issue. Not your fault, was few months ago. maybe look at Danger Den or other brands for a while.

Fans x 10

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608004

Fan are okay, have your read ANYTHING about fans here or at other places?

You bought 120mm fans for a 140mm rad.

Might go with cheaper fans not sure yet. So how does this look so far?

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60% score, your still like crazy rushing it.

Never EVER trust what the marketers feed to the websites. I just spent $200 at FCPU (one of a few good places), but spent 3 hours before picking the fans and wire mods I wanted, reading lots of reviews. And I been at this since 2007.


I wouldn't buy ANYTHING for two weeks. We deal with tis ALL the time, extra time saved saves YOU and us typing time. What's the hurry? It's a hobby, not a gaol.

I will look into some different parts after reading your suggestions. I also just noticed I was going to get all 140's. Haha that was my bad. I changed the fans for the bottom rad and am looking into top rad fans now.

I won't be buying for at least a few months so this is just preparation I like having something to do to fill my time so I decided to make this list for my rig once I get the money together. Which like I said will be in a few months. So I'm really in no rush.

Is there a tubing brand you'd recommend?

I wouldn't buy anything from FCPU after the whole Lamptron issue, personally. But that's just me.

Would sidewinder be better or maybe somewhere else?