My Athlon is too hot!

Grutz · Oct 8, 2002

My comp is running at idle temp of 55-57C and can go as high as 67C while thinkin. It's in my room which gets pretty hot. I've got two fans and am leaving the side panel off for now but am still getting these high temps. However I have had zero instability problems.

What is all of you opinions on the best way to cool this thing down??? (I'd like to stay away from water cooled)
Or should I not worry about it until I get stability probs?

-Thanks

Yodums · Oct 8, 2002

First question, are you using thermal paste? Did you follow instructions to apply it? http://www.arcticsilver.com/as3.htm

Did you make sure your fan is working?

Thermal paste is required on all CPUs or else you may overheat.

Kalamity · Oct 8, 2002

what hsf are you using, and how fast is the fan going?

ElroyCarbon · Oct 9, 2002

yeah Yodums said it. I have received/ purchased several setups from people claiming that they are just not stable. As I begin the teardown I've noticed that they gooped on the AS3 and that was the whole issue from the get. Had they read the directions they would have saved the time, money and headaches.

Grutz · Oct 9, 2002

ok

I'm not using paste, I'm using the pad that came on my heatsink. My heatsink came with the processor ( I kinda knew I would have to get a better one but wanted to ask all of you what to get) and it runs at 5500+ rpms.
I didn't know that the paste was a requirment, I'll give that a try.
I think the biggest problem is the temp in my room, cause now that it's 1:30 in the morning the temp is down to 48C. But is that still to high?

-thanks

i_like_penguins · Oct 9, 2002

stock hsf almost always suck. taking the thermal pad off and using some as3 will help tons. also, how is the airflow through the rest of the case? cutting a duct into your case right above the proc will help TONS.

Big_Baller · Oct 9, 2002

I_like_penguins what is a "proc" are you talking about the cpu or power supply? anyways gruntz yes go out and buy a better fan I personally have had good results with the volcano7 but there are many good fans out there. Remember to follow the directions on http://www.arcticsilver.com/as3.htm as yodums said.

Maximouse · Oct 9, 2002

I notice your motherboard is an A7V333.

What version is your bios?

Earlier versions get the temps from the On-die sensor while the later versions read from the diode, which reads about 10c lower.

Deadphishy · Oct 9, 2002

i would upgrade your hsf. i was getting temps in those ranges with my stcok hsf. but know i use a ax-7 and i run 34 deg idle.also get some as3, it really helps. and it lasts a long time. i've used my 3gram tube on a lot of things and i have like 50% of it left.

rb26dett · Oct 9, 2002

The word of the day is Arctic Silver 3

Ugmore Baggage · Oct 9, 2002

Three things:
1. Maximouse is right about Asus boards. Probably half of your "problem".

2. I'd get a Thermaright AX-7 Very cool (literally), and cheap.

3. Beware certain flavors of Arctic Silver, it's difficult to use properly and hazardous to your system if used wrong.

itim100 · Oct 10, 2002

I had the same problem with my Tbird, with Idles of 60 or so and the hottest room in the house. Even if you don't want to worry about AS3 you should definately invest in a SLK600. The AX7 is great, but it's huge. If you put a 80mm fan on a SLK600 (which you can do easily without mods) it actually performs a little better than the AX7 with the same 80mm fan. You wouldn't even need to buy a new fan, as the SLK600 fits 60x25, 60x35, and 80x35s, so you could just use a case fan (you won't be needing it).

Wraith · Oct 10, 2002

My problem was somehow my heatsink was seated incorectly, so i took it off, and put it back on. juts hoping it would help, and lo and behlod, it worked! try it! if you have AS3 it helps a tone, took me from 47 idle to 45 Load. good stuff

Gnufsh · Oct 11, 2002

The SLK-800 is the best! 48c room temp! Where do you live?

I've actually had close, but you seriously need some AC.

AMD'er · Oct 11, 2002

the T-BIRD is hot period...it will be hard for you to get some of the temps that others have with other verisions of AMD chips...Just do what the above guys said and don't worry about your temps getting as low as theirs...I have a 1.4T-Bird and i usually hover aroud 55-57 full load and its stable...I personally don't like seeing 55C while i read about others nice cool temps...so I'm changing chips....

MUHHHHAAAAAA

Grutz · Oct 11, 2002

lots of replies

Maximouse: I'm using the Bios that came with the board, and you said a new Bios reads 10C cooler... but which is more accurate?

Ugmore: Baggage you avatar is really ugly.

Gnufsh: I live in Hayward, CA

Thanks for all the replies.

Maximouse · Oct 11, 2002

Re: lots of replies

Grutz said:
Maximouse: I'm using the Bios that came with the board, and you said a new Bios reads 10C cooler... but which is more accurate?

It's more a PR thing than an important issue. The higher sensor records temps inside the core while the other is outside the core.
So really, both are accurate.

Most other boards use the lower temp range as the AXP was the first cpu to use the core sensor. So when someone who is used to the lower temp ranges sees the Asus temps, they start to panic thinking its way too hot ( I see that in messages quite a bit)

I guess too many people complained to Asus about temps and they got sick of it and changed the sensor the bios reads.

Personally, I wish they had left it reading the higher sensor as the auto overheat shutdown would now kick in 10c later. I use the latest Motherboard Monitor program and Monitor BOTH sensors. Right now my diode temps are around 39c idle, 42 load and my on-die temps are 49 idle, 52 load. I am using an AX7 heatsink, I was using a volcano 7+ and the temps were higher.
My chipset temp is around 26c.

Anyway, I think versions 1011 and up are the ones that read the lower sensor.

Hope this helps..
Al

Grutz · Oct 11, 2002

is this it?

it the SK-6+ the same as the 600???

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...=62&manufactory=1444&DEPA=0&sortby=14&order=1

Maximouse · Oct 11, 2002

Re: is this it?

Grutz said:
it the SK-6+ the same as the 600???

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...=62&manufactory=1444&DEPA=0&sortby=14&order=1

No, the SLK-600 is larger.

elmog · Oct 11, 2002

Grutz-

If your board in fact is operating on a bios before 1011, your temps are not unheard of. When I ran an XP 2100 + with stock HS on an A7V333, I had about a 57*C idle.

As long as your pc is stable, I wouln't worry.

If you do want to overclock, then upgrade your HS.

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