Was sold a "Newcastle" but CPU-Z says its a ClawHammer... blessing or curse?

sirRealist · Apr 24, 2006

Was sold a "Newcastle" but CPU-Z says its a ClawHammer... blessing or curse?

Hello! Back in 2004 I built my machine and bought from newegg a A64 3000+ Newcastle. Heres a link:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103424

Im getting ready to OC, and i fired up CPU-Z and it says I have a ClawHammer, Revision SH&-C0

I quickly checked my L2 cache thinking maybe i had gotten lucky, but its 512. Its actually 1mb, but the other 512 is disabled.

So, is all this a blessing or a curse? Assuming CPU-Z is correct (and please comment if you think it isnt), is it better to have this ClawHammer instead of a Newcaste? What about OCing performance? Anyone know how these two chips compare OCing, or in any other way?

Aphex_Tom_9 · Apr 24, 2006

you essentially have a newcastle core. the clawhammers with half the L2 disabled are functionally the same as newcastle cores, you should see the same results a typical newcastle would.

dguy6789 · Apr 24, 2006

One could say curse. Newcastle overclocks better than Clawhammer.

Athlon 64 3000+ cpus run at 2Ghz with 512K of L2 cache on socket 754. It can be either a Newcastle core or a Clawhammer core with half of the L2 cache disabled.(Clawhammers have 1MB of L2 cache normally)

CPUZ used to be reliable, but I have begun to question it. The newest version of CPU Z states that my cpu runs at 2.7 Volts. I find that both shallow and pedantic.

Aphex_Tom_9 · Apr 24, 2006

dguy6789 said:
The newest version of CPU Z states that my cpu runs at 2.7 Volts. I find that both shallow and pedantic.

do you have any other cpu monitoring programs open at the same time? that could be the cause of the misreading.

and, sirRealist, there is a chance you might see sub-average oc-ability on the cpu, but thats only a chance, and there's only 1 way to tell for sure how it will perform- test it.

sirRealist · Apr 24, 2006

dguy6789 said:
One could say curse. Newcastle overclocks better than Clawhammer.

damn

dguy6789 said:
I find that both shallow and pedantic.

hahahha!!!

Aphex_Tom_9 said:
do you have any other cpu monitoring programs open at the same time? that could be the cause of the misreading.

tried closing mbm, THEN opening CPU-Z, same thing

Aphex_Tom_9 · Apr 24, 2006

sirRealist said:
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tried closing mbm, THEN opening CPU-Z, same thing

hehe, i was referring to dguy6789's 2.7v vcore reading problem

soulfly1448 · Apr 24, 2006

I have a 3500+ Clawhammer (stock 2.2GHz) and have had it up to 2860. Not too bad if you ask me. That was with some generic ram too. I run it at 2.75 everyday at 1.50v.

sirRealist · Apr 24, 2006

also, if you guys wouldnt mind, take a look at my thread on my vcore (but if you want to comment please post in that thread)... i put it in the mobo forum, but it def applies to OCing my processor...

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=455918

dguy6789 · Apr 24, 2006

Aphex_Tom_9 said:
hehe, i was referring to dguy6789's 2.7v vcore reading problem

With only cpu z 133 running, it would say 2.720 volts. It is odd, however, all other reading seem acurate.

sirRealist · Apr 26, 2006

soulfly1448 said:
I have a 3500+ Clawhammer (stock 2.2GHz) and have had it up to 2860. Not too bad if you ask me. That was with some generic ram too. I run it at 2.75 everyday at 1.50v.

damn dude! would you mind posting some temps (idle/load), and what cpu cooler you have, and what your ram timings are (stock and what they're at now), and any other OC info you have... im gonan be OCing soon and id really liek to draw on your experience!

Andreas1327 · Apr 26, 2006

I believe that both are bad overclockers... so since you already have it try to find it's max oc...

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