Built a new PC, but it wont turn on!

Master_Z · 08-14-08, 11:42 PM

I spent about 500 dollars in parts and spent several hours trying to get it to work, but it won't. The farthest I got was getting the LEDs working, and sadly that was before I even looked at the jumper pattern. Basically I turn it on and nothing happens. Absolutely nothing. I heard that with this motherboard it wont accept 45nm CPUs until you update it, but I think I would need another CPU. Specs are below.

Motherboard: ECS G31T-M
RAM: Super Talent 2x1GB DDR2-800 Dual Channel RAM
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200
GPU: ATI HD3870
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB Sata II 7200RPM 16MB Cache
Case: Winsis WN-19 w/350w PSU

Mathis · 08-14-08, 11:50 PM

prolly too weak a power supply for the setup, that's a good first guess.

hi-yield · 08-15-08, 01:57 AM

More Power man. More Power.

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Master_Z · 08-15-08, 06:08 AM

Cant be. I took out the graphics card and still had the same issue. The only guess I have is that the motherboard does not support wolfdale by default, so I gotta put another LGA775 CPU in and update it, which of course I dont have.

hajalie24 · 08-15-08, 09:45 AM

It's probably the power supply, if not then it has to be the motherboard.

radium · 08-15-08, 10:14 AM

If you have any LED lights on the mobo, if they light up but the computer won't power, it would point to the PSU. Last time I used an underpowered power supply, I would press the power button, the fans on the case would spin about a quarter turn and then stop.

I would try swapping out a different power supply, the power supplies that come with cases are often about half a pound and best used as a bolas rather than powering a computer.

ratbuddy · 08-15-08, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Master_Z

Cant be. I took out the graphics card and still had the same issue. The only guess I have is that the motherboard does not support wolfdale by default, so I gotta put another LGA775 CPU in and update it, which of course I dont have.

I love how you know the answer and have posted it but people still point to the PSU

Call a local shop and see if they have a Celeron D or P4 you can borrow for the BIOS update. Where do you live? Maybe a member here is close enough to help even..

radium · 08-15-08, 10:20 AM

From what I read about the motherboard, it should boot up. There were 2 reviewers that managed to get the 7200 to boot up from stock settings, granted, it probably didn't have all the features and required a BIOS update, they could get it up off the ground.

I still think it's the PSU.

th3 · 08-15-08, 12:45 PM

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Basically I turn it on and nothing happens. Absolutely nothing

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I took out the graphics card and still had the same issue

That rules out weak PSU, but not DOA PSU.

Long shot: Defective power button, remove the header from the PWR pin and short it with a screwdriver or something. And while youre at it check all cables to the mainboard.

Personally i vote for dead mainboard, ECS is the worst brand i ever experienced.

JamesXP · 08-15-08, 12:47 PM

cheap powersupply, won't output 100w if it's life depended on it, get it replaced, with a quality unit.

redduc900 · 08-15-08, 12:51 PM

Check to make sure the 2-pin PWR connector (PWRSW) at the System Panel Connector (20-pin Panel) isn't installed backwards. In addition to the 24-pin power connector, make sure the 4-pin power connector is also being utilized.

JamesXP · 08-15-08, 12:53 PM

I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter if the powerwitch polarity is the otherway, its only a switch.

Roofles · 08-15-08, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesXP

I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter if the powerwitch polarity is the otherway, its only a switch.

Correct, momentary switches like the Power Switch are not polarity dependent.

Mr.Guvernment · 08-15-08, 01:42 PM

even if you do get it working, get ride of that PSU, unless you want to be building another new rig in a few weeks when that one blows and takes everything with it

radium · 08-15-08, 01:53 PM

I would recommend a Powmax!
Pow! and you have power!

They're super light so it makes it a perfect LAN PSU!

j/p they suck

RJARRRPCGP · 08-15-08, 02:07 PM

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Basically I turn it on and nothing happens. Absolutely nothing

For me, it was simple, the power button was connected to the wrong place on the motherboard.

Mr.Guvernment · 08-15-08, 02:34 PM

remove everything from the mobo except

CPU
1 stick of ram
vid card

remove everything else

try it then,as said above, short the power switch connectors with a screw driver,. this will eliminate anything else

Master_Z · 08-15-08, 03:19 PM

Okay. So I used a PSU tester and it said the PSU Was working fine. I really dont think its my PSU. On another note, last night when I didnt use the correct jumper pattern, I got LEDs on, but when I used the correct pattern, no LEDs. A review on Newegg claims it was "extremely hard to put the right jumper pattern on the f.panel", so is it possible that the manual's jumper patterns are off?

Kai_Force · 08-15-08, 04:05 PM

ive recently had a new rig not turn on...til like the 5th power off psu, power on....and then just a few LED's came on........then shut off......and never turned on again. The psu was obviously damaged and failing in some way....so i hooked up the same exact psu to it, just another one i had lying around, worked like a charm.

Get a new psu. NOW.

JamesXP · 08-15-08, 04:34 PM

...PSU tester = junk

it's hyped upp DMM, it doesn't put any load on the powersupply just checks voltage, it is junk, anything that comes with a case is junk (except maybe coolermaster/antec cases)

08-14-08, 11:42 PM	Thread Starter #1
Master_Z New Member Join Date: Aug 2008	Built a new PC, but it wont turn on! I spent about 500 dollars in parts and spent several hours trying to get it to work, but it won't. The farthest I got was getting the LEDs working, and sadly that was before I even looked at the jumper pattern. Basically I turn it on and nothing happens. Absolutely nothing. I heard that with this motherboard it wont accept 45nm CPUs until you update it, but I think I would need another CPU. Specs are below. Motherboard: ECS G31T-M RAM: Super Talent 2x1GB DDR2-800 Dual Channel RAM CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 GPU: ATI HD3870 HDD: Seagate Barracuda 250GB Sata II 7200RPM 16MB Cache Case: Winsis WN-19 w/350w PSU
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08-14-08, 11:50 PM	#2
Mathis Disabled Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hampton Roads, VA	prolly too weak a power supply for the setup, that's a good first guess.
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08-15-08, 01:57 AM	#3
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08-15-08, 06:08 AM	Thread Starter #4
Master_Z New Member Join Date: Aug 2008	Cant be. I took out the graphics card and still had the same issue. The only guess I have is that the motherboard does not support wolfdale by default, so I gotta put another LGA775 CPU in and update it, which of course I dont have.
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08-15-08, 10:14 AM	#6
radium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rhode Island	If you have any LED lights on the mobo, if they light up but the computer won't power, it would point to the PSU. Last time I used an underpowered power supply, I would press the power button, the fans on the case would spin about a quarter turn and then stop. I would try swapping out a different power supply, the power supplies that come with cases are often about half a pound and best used as a bolas rather than powering a computer. __________________ E8400 @ stock ATI HD4850 @ stock OCZ Platinum 2x2GB 5-5-5-15 P182 case 150 Raptor OS/Games 250 Seagate storage Asus P5Q pro Waiting on the vid cooler to come in before OC's ^_^
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08-15-08, 10:20 AM	#8
radium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rhode Island	From what I read about the motherboard, it should boot up. There were 2 reviewers that managed to get the 7200 to boot up from stock settings, granted, it probably didn't have all the features and required a BIOS update, they could get it up off the ground. I still think it's the PSU. __________________ E8400 @ stock ATI HD4850 @ stock OCZ Platinum 2x2GB 5-5-5-15 P182 case 150 Raptor OS/Games 250 Seagate storage Asus P5Q pro Waiting on the vid cooler to come in before OC's ^_^
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JamesXP Epic Fail Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England	cheap powersupply, won't output 100w if it's life depended on it, get it replaced, with a quality unit. __________________ Intel i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR 1600Mhz nVidia 8600GT ASRock Z77 Pro4 128GB Samsung 830 SSD Corsair VX450 My Saitek Eclipse III Review
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JamesXP Epic Fail Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England	I'm pretty sure it doesnt matter if the powerwitch polarity is the otherway, its only a switch. __________________ Intel i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR 1600Mhz nVidia 8600GT ASRock Z77 Pro4 128GB Samsung 830 SSD Corsair VX450 My Saitek Eclipse III Review
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Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	even if you do get it working, get ride of that PSU, unless you want to be building another new rig in a few weeks when that one blows and takes everything with it __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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radium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Rhode Island	I would recommend a Powmax! Pow! and you have power! They're super light so it makes it a perfect LAN PSU! j/p they suck __________________ E8400 @ stock ATI HD4850 @ stock OCZ Platinum 2x2GB 5-5-5-15 P182 case 150 Raptor OS/Games 250 Seagate storage Asus P5Q pro Waiting on the vid cooler to come in before OC's ^_^
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08-15-08, 02:34 PM	#17
Mr.Guvernment Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Costa Rica - and toronto sometimes	remove everything from the mobo except CPU 1 stick of ram vid card remove everything else try it then,as said above, short the power switch connectors with a screw driver,. this will eliminate anything else __________________ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Poor Planning On Your Part Does Not Constitute An Emergency On My Part ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© The trouble with life is there’s no background music ©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸© Life isnt short, you're just dead for too long©¸,ø¤°`°¤ø,¸ ADD YOUR STEAM ID TO THE LIST FOR HOURS OF FUN!
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08-15-08, 03:19 PM	Thread Starter #18
Master_Z New Member Join Date: Aug 2008	Okay. So I used a PSU tester and it said the PSU Was working fine. I really dont think its my PSU. On another note, last night when I didnt use the correct jumper pattern, I got LEDs on, but when I used the correct pattern, no LEDs. A review on Newegg claims it was "extremely hard to put the right jumper pattern on the f.panel", so is it possible that the manual's jumper patterns are off?
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08-15-08, 04:05 PM	#19
Kai_Force Member Join Date: Jun 2007	ive recently had a new rig not turn on...til like the 5th power off psu, power on....and then just a few LED's came on........then shut off......and never turned on again. The psu was obviously damaged and failing in some way....so i hooked up the same exact psu to it, just another one i had lying around, worked like a charm. Get a new psu. NOW. __________________ _____________________________________________ E6600@3.375Ghz 1.35V 375x9 Zalman9700 Evga 680i SLI Mobo 4G G Skill DDR2 Ram 5-5-5-15@1100Mhz 2.1V Evga 8800GTX 768M 50c/65c Antec 1200 Case 3 Seagate 1TB -Raid 5- Areca 1210 Raid card 2x Dell 2407WFP ABS Tagan BZ 700 Watt Z-5500 + Xfi XtremeGamer
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08-15-08, 04:34 PM	#20
JamesXP Epic Fail Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: England	...PSU tester = junk it's hyped upp DMM, it doesn't put any load on the powersupply just checks voltage, it is junk, anything that comes with a case is junk (except maybe coolermaster/antec cases) __________________ Intel i5 3570k @ 4.2GHz 8GB Kingston HyperX DDR 1600Mhz nVidia 8600GT ASRock Z77 Pro4 128GB Samsung 830 SSD Corsair VX450 My Saitek Eclipse III Review
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