well i've already pulled everything out except the hd, cpu, hs/fan, 1 stick of micron 256pc2100, nvida gf. my temps are (with MBM5) 58C idle, 63C load, at 115fsb. system temp 23C. it was higher till i used AS2 yesterday and got rid of the thermal tape. dropped about 6degrees. they still seem kinda high to me though. its 59C right now while i type this. i've got good circulation in my case, two front induction 80mm fans, two rear 80m exhaust/ with one side 80mm exhaust right infront of the coolermaster DP5-6131C on the h/s. i've switched the memory between both slots. Inkle can you change your multiplier on the 7dxr? i believe i have to bridge the L1s to unlock the chip to change that. i've searched the bios, i see where you can set the cpu host/pci clock and you can set some setting for the dram(ph limit, idle, trc, trp, tras, latency, trcd. here a snap of wcpuid. couldn't get mspaint to save it as a jpeg for somereason, so i made it b/w. i've also done a fresh install a 98se. flashed bios to f6, via4in1 drivers, new nvidia drivers. i'm running out of ideas. i've done failsafe defaults, optimized defaults. i guess i'm gonna drive and hour over to a friends today to plug the cpu into his a7m266 which he run a xp1700 also to see if the chips bad. any other suggestions or thoughts please go right ahead. thanks everything so far. if i should try better memory is there any franchise place that sells good memory, like best buy, cdw, compusa? i know they're expensive but i don't want and expensive piece of sh*t. otherwise i guess i'll have to wait a week for it to come in the mail?