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FRONTPAGE AMD FX-8350 - Piledriver - CPU Review
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This is the discussion thread for our review of the CPU that's on our frontpage. You can click on the link in the OP to go straight to the review, or you can find the review on the frontpage.
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My new upgrade is setting on a desk across from me. It's a HUGE black obese... I mean obsidian 800D. Inside lies a brand new 360 CPU/GPU water cooling loop affixed to a brand new ASUS DCUII GPU and just a bit over 1 year old FX-8150 CPU. These are plugged into an also brand new ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z motherboard and brand new OCZ 1000 Watt gold PSU. All of these are getting their orders out of a brand new Samsung 830 256 GB SSD -- All with little hesitation or complaints anywhere.
But, this new build was always intended to have brand new commander-in-chief once it came out. So, I too will be ordering the new Piledriver. It will have to wait a bit though, as I'm also building 2 new computers I'll need to finish first. I used to do this as a business about 10 years back, and I'm sorta getting my feet wet again so to speak. I've found my regular business's are running quite well without my undivided attention the past few months, and I'm kinda thinking about doing some builds for a few clients and maybe some new customers, to see if I'd like getting back into this part time.
Even though I am looking forward to the new FX-8350, I will say, the new Ivy Bridge processors are awfully hard to beat. Both of these new builds will have i5 3570K Ivy Bridge processors in them. I'm testing one now and it's actually boots much faster then the the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z does. This particular one is using a new Asrock Z77 Extreme 3 motherboard and Corsair Force 3 240GB SSD. Running Windows 8, it fully boots from button push to Windows Desktop in less the 10 seconds normally -- That is the quickest cold boot I've seen, ever.
Anyways, I'll be finalizing the new upgrade maybe in a week or 2, including the new piledriver CPU. Eager to try the overclocking on that new chip.
-Rodger
But, this new build was always intended to have brand new commander-in-chief once it came out. So, I too will be ordering the new Piledriver. It will have to wait a bit though, as I'm also building 2 new computers I'll need to finish first. I used to do this as a business about 10 years back, and I'm sorta getting my feet wet again so to speak. I've found my regular business's are running quite well without my undivided attention the past few months, and I'm kinda thinking about doing some builds for a few clients and maybe some new customers, to see if I'd like getting back into this part time.
Even though I am looking forward to the new FX-8350, I will say, the new Ivy Bridge processors are awfully hard to beat. Both of these new builds will have i5 3570K Ivy Bridge processors in them. I'm testing one now and it's actually boots much faster then the the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z does. This particular one is using a new Asrock Z77 Extreme 3 motherboard and Corsair Force 3 240GB SSD. Running Windows 8, it fully boots from button push to Windows Desktop in less the 10 seconds normally -- That is the quickest cold boot I've seen, ever.
Anyways, I'll be finalizing the new upgrade maybe in a week or 2, including the new piledriver CPU. Eager to try the overclocking on that new chip.
-Rodger
referring to the (sub) discussion on the previous page
Well Roger it is not that The IVYBRIDGE boots faster it is that Windows has never really been designed to run optimally for a multicore processor. It still has a lousy scheduler . It appears that with windows 8 Microsoft stil has been "too busy" to repair the scheduler. ON An FX 8 core processor Linux boots so much faster than on many Intel I7's. It is poor design and the incestuous relationship of the Wintel monopolists. Frankly I do not believe windows compilkes its os with all the AMD optimizations that it should. Can I prove it? No , do I believe it , yes. AMD is doing a hell ofa job in spite of the obstacles and a shoe string budget. If their various new offerings in the multi-faceted market place pan out. They will have more money to up the R$D budget for their cpus. That would mean a shorter development cycle. It might mean they can reintegrate a foundry later on and give The big boys a run for the money.
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The reason Ivy boots faster is a different implementation of UEFI most likely. The AMD side hasn't gotten around to implementing UEFIs (for instance, ASUS' CAP UEFIs for their Z77/X79 boards) that take advantage of the hardware's ability to boot by basically skipping the entire POST process.
ASUS says they're working on it for the AMD side but haven't gotten there yet. The difference in boot time is essentially just POST. One POSTs, the other skips that part.
ASUS says they're working on it for the AMD side but haven't gotten there yet. The difference in boot time is essentially just POST. One POSTs, the other skips that part.
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To be optimistic, I expect the next Athlon 64 sometime next year.
To be pessimistic, I expect my AMD stock is going to hit $1 before this year ends.
Supposedly, my Dell laptop has UEFI, but there's no options for it in BIOS. Thankfully, some people have taken the time to modify the BIOS to provide more overclocking features, and some of them expose a lot of previously hidden features (including UEFI options). It already boots in less than 20 seconds, but I bet that can be improved
To be pessimistic, I expect my AMD stock is going to hit $1 before this year ends.
Supposedly, my Dell laptop has UEFI, but there's no options for it in BIOS. Thankfully, some people have taken the time to modify the BIOS to provide more overclocking features, and some of them expose a lot of previously hidden features (including UEFI options). It already boots in less than 20 seconds, but I bet that can be improved
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This Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z with the FX-8150 in it takes about a minute to get into Windows 7. It's booting from the Samsung 830 SSD which is pretty fast. Post does take about half of that time though.
After I finish this rebuild, I see about tweaking things a bit.
-Rodger
After I finish this rebuild, I see about tweaking things a bit.
-Rodger
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@Frakk how to I find that utility?
Anyways, I am doing my first BD encode on my new 8320 @ 4.4Ghz just to get a baseline time, thus far I have to say it definitely seems to be a good bit quicker. Maybe its just the particular chip I got, but I must say I am surprised at how much this chip wants volts in comparison to the 8120 I had.
Anyways, I am doing my first BD encode on my new 8320 @ 4.4Ghz just to get a baseline time, thus far I have to say it definitely seems to be a good bit quicker. Maybe its just the particular chip I got, but I must say I am surprised at how much this chip wants volts in comparison to the 8120 I had.
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That's good. I do alot of video (personal and business) so I need fast encode speeds (and a whole lot of storage).
-Rodger
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Boy, popped my bubble pretty quick there fellaSame Drive, sorry, i couldn't resist
Gotta find that boot speed utility and see if I can beat your time now
-Rodger
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http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Windows-Boot-timer.shtml
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Windows-Boot-timer.shtml
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I prefer a nice stopwatch. I don't trust random executable files that hook that deep into the boot process of Windows You should be able to pull timestamps from Event Log to figure out how long it took, but I'm not sure if Windows would provide a sane feature like logging startup events...
You should be able to pull timestamps from Event Log to figure out how long it took, but I'm not sure if Windows would provide a sane feature like logging startup events...- Joined
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Thats a strange review, They are using a locked i5 3470 (3.2Ghz) to compare with an unlocked CPU and they have the 3470 way out ahead of the 2500K (3.3Ghz).
They conclude the i5 3470 is the best CPU despite the fact that its also locked.
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Its here for anyone who wants to chalange me
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/Windows-Boot-timer.shtml
Untweaked, 3.9Ghz 8320 on 990FXa-UD3 = 11.59 with samsung 830 256Gb not bad.
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Possibly a typo, but one that really ought not to have been missed in proof-reading. That should be 8 GB/s.
Um... is that a "we're going to come right out and admit that we're biased here"?
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A considerable difference between the phrasing: "we believe they will buy" and saying we believe they should buy.
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