They were released to OEMs the same time as the DIY cpus last Oct I believe was the date the FX-8350s, 8320s, FX-6300s and all were available. They definitely have a higher TurboCore and not to mention a higher TDP, so I would expect them to be fairly stout. The OEMs are so cheap on mobos that I would not have exepected such an option going straight to the OEMs but they did and I expect they are binned right on the money for the OEMs due the motherboards they use. Probably better cpu than we think at first.
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