Going to take the plunge in custom loop and need advice

[Gibbs989]

Earlier today i stumbled across a sale on the fx9590 and could not resist picking one up . The problem is the Corsair h80 i curently use to cool my fx6300 is not going to cut it for cooling my new monster chip. I am looking at building a custom loop with a top mounted 120.2 rad (needs to be same dimension as the h100 that my case was designed to have) and another 120.1 rad front mounted i have lots of room for this as i removed the upper hd tray already to allow for better airflow. I would really appreciate if someone could help me spec out a setup thats relatively silent when I am just browsing the net or watching movies, but capable of handling the heat i expect the FX9590 to throw out under load.

I was considering the swiftech H220x and just adding another 120.1 front mounted rad but it seems if im going to the trouble or draining the system and adding components I may be better off building it from the ground up.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Daddyjaxx]

You need much more rad than Swiftech than they can provide. They are kind of bottom of the line. Can you fit a thicker rad, like 40mm in the case?

 

[Gibbs989]

unfoutunatley i want everything concealed in the case so I am limited to 30mm thick rad for the top mount I am considering

http://www.ncix.com/detail/black-ice-gts-stealth-240-d1-80193-1198.htm

and then for front mount 120.1 http://www.ncix.com/detail/black-ice-gts-stealth-120-15-80192-1198.htm with a push pull fan config.

for block im looking at http://www.ncix.com/detail/swiftech-apogee-xl-led-back-lit-front-32-96716-1198.htm

I would like a resevoir pump combo to fit in 5.25 bay any suggestions?

With a few mods i could also mount a second 120.2 any thickness rather than 120.1 rad in the front and could rig it for push pull configuration, top mount can only be configured push or pull and still be concealed within the case.

Is there a pump/resevoir combo that can run 2x 120.2 rads? this might be my best option for cooling my new chip.

 

[Daddyjaxx]

Black Ice rads are fine, but the more fins per inch, the faster fans you need. I wonder if the Malestrom v2 has a version that holds an integrated pump. Google it. You only need one pump. I have a Malestrom v1 that holds two integrated pumps If you have good enough rads and don't plan on overclocking too much, 120.3 should hold the CPU in check at 220w.

 

[Gibbs989]

Do you think the 120.3 be able to cool a 5.5 oc? Or should I go with the 120.4? And how about the swift tech block? I planned on using http://m.ncix.com/products/sku/92607/1715 for fans will these work or or do you have another suggestion?

 

[Daddyjaxx]

The block is fine. I'm don't like fans with that many blades for water cooling. The static pressure normally stinks. I haven't had an AMD CPU in years, but it looks like the 9590 uses 1.3v stock. Just for the heck of it. in the PSU calculator I entered 5500 @ 1.5v and it came to 343w. That would need a 120.3 with loud fans or a 120.4 with slower fans.

 

[Gibbs989]

so my parts list so far consists of
rads 2xhttp://www.ncix.com/detail/black-ice-gts-stealth-240-d1-80193-1198.htm
water block 1xhttp://www.ncix.com/detail/swiftech-apogee-xl-led-back-lit-front-32-96716-1198.htm
pump/res 1xhttp://www.swiftech.com/MaelstromV2.aspx
fans 6xhttp://www.ncix.com/detail/scythe-glidestream-120-pwm-fan-5d-92607-1715.htm

if anyone sees any issues regardign this setup please let me know i intend to order within the next couple days.

 

[Daddyjaxx]

With the rads at 30 FPI, you need the faster fans for sure. I'd look at these fans. http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=81&lng=en&set=1 The static pressure is excellent. The more FPI, the more important static pressure is. You need to be able to squeeze air through a smaller area.

My rads are only 15 FPI, so I can use quiet fans. With 15 fins per inch, that is half as much. Slower less powerful fans can push through easier than higher density FPI. My fans are only 57 CFM and I can feel air pulling out and the fans pulling in will hold a piece of paper in place against the case.

 

[Gibbs989]

wow those are nice but pricy fans! I am looking for quiet fans can you suggest a 120.2 and a 120.1 rad that i could use quieter fans on? i got looking and measuring inside the case and could rig the 120.2 up font in push pull and a 120.1 out back in push/pull where my h80 is currently mounted. Would that setup still provide sufficient cooling for a 5.5 oc? going to read up and browse around to see what i can find but any suggestion on components you have used is appreciated.

maybe http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p988_Alphacool-NexXxoS-XT45-Full-Copper-240mm.html up front and http://www.alphacool.com/product_info.php/info/p971_Alphacool-NexXxoS-ST30-Full-Copper-120mm.html mounted in the back

or http://www.xs-pc.com/radiators-rx-series/rx240-dual-fan-radiator-v2 with the 120.1 version in the back

 

[Gibbs989]

so after many hours of reading reviews, sand sourcing parts I have come up with the following setup.


http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...al_Bay_Pump_Reservoir_Combo_Maelstrom-V2.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...versal_CPU_Waterblock_-_Acetal_Intel_AMD.html
15 feethttp://www.frozencpu.com/products/1..._x_12_OD_-_Brilliant_UV_Blue_PFLEXA-12-B.html
from from frozen cpu

https://www.dazmode.com/store/product/dual-lp240-extra-slim-27mm-radiator/
https://www.dazmode.com/store/product/single_high_performance_radiator_px120/
https://www.dazmode.com/store/produ...erformance_barb_black_value_pack_of_10_black/
10xhttps://www.dazmode.com/store/product/3_8_id_1_2_od_tubing_hose_clamp/

I have about a dozen fans i can use rated anywhere from 55-75cfm so i should be able to make something work with the lower fpi rads. However I would still like a suggestion for pwm fans i can control with my mobo that will work with these rads (and hopefully not break the bank, based on pricing I have seen and estimated shipping Im already gonna go at least $100 over my original budget). my case fans all run off the preinstalled 3 speed fan controller in my case but its not capable of handling another 4 fans.

on a side note case fans will be 2x120mm front intake, 120mm bottom intake, 120mm rear intake, 200mm side exhaust ( might swap for 2x 140mm) and 2x 120mm top exhaust. any suggestions on this configuration?

please let me know if there is any reason this setup will not work for my FX9590 planned 5.5 OC

 

[dtrunk]

cart linking not working, rarely does. yes, xspc and alphacool make good radiators at lower fps. i would go for the 40mm-60mm radiators; dropping to 30mm thick radiators usually lowers flow a little. can't really comment much more as nothing you linked worked. are you sure your mobo can run 6 pwm fans? you might need a pwm controller/splitter.

 

[Gibbs989]

updated component list with individual pieces. and there would only be 4 pwm fans as the top radiator can only be configure to push or pull and still be concealed. so 2 there then 2 in push/pull on the front 120.1 rad. the case fans already run off of pre-installed 3 speed controller. with the exception of the bottom mounted intake it runs off of the mobo.

 

[Conners]

Oh my, he's entered the zone, there's no going back one you've entered.

 

[Gibbs989]

haha i will take that as an approval for my potential setup?

 

[Daddyjaxx]

Why not buy everything from Frozen CPU? If you want the skinny rads, I'd go with the XSPC AX series. Why 3/8"? Go with 7/16. You get the benefit of higher flow rate than 3/8 and better bends than 1/2. If you are using the Primochill LRT, have boiling water next to you to hold the tips of the tubing in before installing on the barbs. I have been doing this a long time and that is the hardest tubing to get on barbs of the same size. Hold it in the hot water for 10-15 seconds and it slips right on.

The pump/res, block, and tubing are fine. Buy some Dead Water and a silver kill coil too.

This is all 7/16".

 

[Diggrr]

You use 3/8" all you want. Not enough difference to matter.
Maybe the old testing is a bit long in the tooth, but personally I've seen zero difference in moving from 1/2" to 1/4" that I currently use.

6.35mm quick fit = 50.11C
8mm barbed = 49.74C
8mm quick fit = 49.31
9.6mm barbed = 49.25C
9.6mm quick fit = 49.04C
11.1mm barbed = 49.01C
12.7mm barbed = 49.00C

 

[caddi daddi]

5.5 on a 9590? you need to read the just putzen around thread.
lots and lots that might help you burried in there.

 

[Quest For Speed]

You use 3/8" all you want. Not enough difference to matter.
Maybe the old testing is a bit long in the tooth, but personally I've seen zero difference in moving from 1/2" to 1/4" that I currently use.

Tube size doesn't make a difference when using the pumps now available. Back when Cathar did that test mag 5 and Eheim aquarium/pond pumps were the norm. I still have Cathar's "White Water" cpu block.

 

[Diggrr]

Actually he used a Laing DDC1+...don't forget that Cathar also helped introduce us to these little pumps.

I'll certainly admit that my dual pumps are a beast compared to what he'd used.

 

[Daddyjaxx]

I don't care the size, the Primochill LRT is a P.I.A to get on the barbs. Tygon was soft enough to just slip on. This tubing is not. It is very stiff. No matter what size you use, have the boiling water ready, especially for the block where you don't want to use excess pressure.