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i just came back to my PC after being away from it for 5-10 minutes. (i had to come back to it, i was having withdrawls. :p )

and the time has dropped to 7mins 36sec per frame. of course it will rise once i start using the PC a bit more.
i would love to see how low it gets sitting fully idle. :D
 
DManeKid said:
wooohooooo i got one i got one!!!!! heh heh heh :D

um im 40% into mine and i just turned on my rig (my mom usually turns them off in hte morning) well i have done one frame since i have turned it on and it says that it took 11min and 48sec on a p3 866:D that sounds kinda fast since looktall's [email protected] did them in 8 min and whatever sec...il edit this later if this wrong;)
This sounds too good to be true - check the logfile - there should be 12000 steps for each "frame" or each 1% in the case of these WU's. When mine restarted late last night EMIII showed a frame time of 7mins (rather than the usual 20mins). This is because it seems to save it's progress more than every 12000 steps

[02:55:29] Previous termination of core was improper.
[02:55:29] Files status OK
[02:55:29] Writing local files:
[02:55:29] Entering M.D.
[02:55:35] arc file found...
[02:55:35] ... and we'll restart from it.
[02:55:37] Protein: DE NOVO PROTEIN in water
[02:55:38] Writing local files
[02:55:38] Completed 68000 out of 1200000 steps (5%)
[03:02:03] Writing local files
[03:02:03] Completed 72000 out of 1200000 steps (6%)
[03:22:21] Writing local files
[03:22:21] Completed 84000 out of 1200000 steps (7%)

so the first frame it completed after the restart was only 4000 steps (as the other 8000 were done before it restarted)

Rich
 
woot new speed record!!!!!! haha :)


[August 15 17:09:14] Working on Unit 01
+ Working ...
[17:09:14] Folding@Home Client Core Version 1.22 (August 12, 2002)
[17:09:14]
[17:09:14] Proj: work/wudata_01
[17:09:14] Created dyn
[17:09:14] Files status OK
[17:09:14] Writing local files:
[17:09:14] Entering M.D.
[17:09:21] Protein: DE NOVO PROTEIN in water
[17:09:22] Writing local files
[17:09:23] Writing local files
[17:09:23] Completed 0 out of 1200000 steps (0%)
[17:15:37] Writing local files
[17:15:37] Completed 12000 out of 1200000 steps (1%)
[17:21:51] Writing local files
[17:21:51] Completed 24000 out of 1200000 steps (2%)
[17:28:04] Writing local files
[17:28:04] Completed 36000 out of 1200000 steps (3%)

6 mins and 14 secs per frame
XP1600 @ 1.61 ghz 153 FSB x 10.5 PC2100 Cas2
 
gtsimmo said:
woot new speed record!!!!!! haha :)


[August 15 17:09:14] Working on Unit 01
+ Working ...
[17:09:14] Folding@Home Client Core Version 1.22 (August 12, 2002)


that is interesting... the date, i didn't realize there was a new version.


6 mins and 14 secs per frame
XP1600 @ 1.61 ghz 153 FSB x 10.5 PC2100 Cas2

sweet man!! nice frame times you have going there, making me feel like getting one even more now :(

FOLD ON
NAS
 
hey nas it seems like your the last to get one!!:p :p :p i looked and it takes 15min per frame (pretty sure:confused: )

edit - ok i looked in the log

[17:21:35] Completed 492000 out of 1200000 steps (41%)
[17:21:36] Writing local files
[17:21:36] Completed 492000 out of 1200000 steps (41%)
[17:36:25] Writing local files
[17:36:25] Completed 504000 out of 1200000 steps (42%)
[17:50:58] Writing local files
[17:50:58] Completed 516000 out of 1200000 steps (43%)

isnt that wierd?? 41 twice!! in 1 second lol.....ok so thats 14min and 33 seconds and this is with an idle p3 866:)
 
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gtsimmo said:

6 mins and 14 secs per frame
XP1600 @ 1.61 ghz 153 FSB x 10.5 PC2100 Cas2

ah ha!!

proof that the gromacs does even the playing field between AMD and intel cpu's. :D

we have the same clock speed and your machine is only 2 mins faster per frame than mine.

under the tinker core, the gap would be much larger.
is your time taken from a fully idle machine, or one you use while it folds?

btw, for those using EMIII to get their times, i suggest you let it run a few frames first. :D when my 1.1A first started this gromacs EMIII was reporting a frame time of around 3 minutes. :p
 
DManeKid said:
hey nas it seems like your the last to get one!!:p :p :p i looked and it takes 15min per frame (pretty sure:confused: )

is that 15 mins per frame on the t-bird in your sig?

you should be getting much quicker times than that.
my duron @880 does it in 15 mins per frame.

are you sure you haven't got anything else running that is stealing the cpu cycles?

EDIT: or were you talking about the PIII?

again, it shows that intel cpu's are no longer at a disadvantage. :D
 
looktall said:


is your time taken from a fully idle machine, or one you use while it folds?

btw, for those using EMIII to get their times, i suggest you let it run a few frames first. :D when my 1.1A first started this gromacs EMIII was reporting a frame time of around 3 minutes. :p

It's from a fully idle machine i dont use besides to fold. I do use it to surf or chat occasionally and that usually adds about 30 sec to a min per frame depending on the load. I done 11 frames or % so far and the time has decreased by one second. But it's still running at 6 mins 13 to 14 seconds per frame on every frame constantly.

Oh my EM3 does report the frame time correctly but that's the only thing it reports. NO time per WU. The frame progress bar is empty and i get no point value. And yes i have the newest version.
 
i reckon if my machine was fully idle our times would be almost identical.

are you sure you have the latest EMIII? there have been three new versions released in the last few days. lol
it's currently up to 1.9.1
 
Yup i have version 1.9.1 i always update as soon as a new one come out, i even got the new protein data sheet. Hmmm oh well i'll edit the stat file after it finishes to make sure the point value is correct.

edit: i just got one on my duron 1 ghz default, sorry ASUS A7m266. Anyhow, it's does 1% in 9 mins 56 sec.
 
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Lt. Max said:
how do u get the gromacs? my thang is still on core_65..
It's just luck - there seem to be more about now. When you get sent one it'll download the core_78 and carry on like a normal WU.


Rich
 
Lt. Max said:
how do u get the gromacs? my thang is still on core_65..

me too, just luck of the assignment :( rather, hoping you get assigned to server 115.

when you get one though make sure you keep both cores because the regular proteins will still use the tinker core. the 78 core is just for the gromacs units.
 
Ok I hate GROMACS! My PII 400Mhz box is doing 1% of a De Novo Protein In Water every 1 and a half hours!! The P146s were quicker than this, and were worth a point more. Gromacs sucks on CPUs without SSE, that’s for sure.
 
hooziewhatsit said:
about the gromacs core...

I've noticed (maybe someone can verify) that if I shutdown windows twice, letting windows close the client, folding will detect 2 improper shutdowns, then delete the entire WU.

therefore, always close the client first using ctrl+c

I think I've lost two wu's like this, one at 90% and another at 35%.

my duron 1000@1168 is doing a de novo at about 10:40 a frame
my tbird 700 is doing a de novo at about 19 min. a frame.

fold on!
Thanks for the heads up hoozie. I have a unique problem with my new 1800+ in that it locks the screen as I go through it with the KVM. Folding keeps working in the background (EMIII still visibly operating) but I lose all keyboard and mouse function. Eventually power management turns the screen off and I lose visual but work continues. An improper shutdown is the only recovery and now with your info I know not to do that more than once during a WU. Good looking out. I might go to USB keyboard/mouse on that box.:beer: :burn:

Edit: Guess I would be the perfect candidate for a test. Can't do it on this unit tho. It's too far along. I'll try to force it on the next one.

Ok. Test verifies the termination after two improper shutdowns. On second shutdown the work folder the following occurred :
The core examined the work files. When it saw two improper shutdowns it automatically went into delete mode (Stanford terminology) and deleted the work and frame files. It then executed a "Special Exit". At this point the program continues. It finds that the work files are missing, it removes the work from queue, deletes the current work unit and continues. The assignment server gives it work and it proceeds to work on the new work unit.

I thought I had given sufficient time for the WU to complete before trying to reboot my system, but I was in error. Lost 5 points being impatient. Please learn from my mistakes. We can't afford but so many of these. Be very careful if you have moderately stable overclocks. This core will not tolerate an imperfect system. Hope Stanford is not trying to make this an exact science.

BTW: DENOVO PROTEIN in water

Tbird1.4@1580 8.67min/frame / 14.43 hrs/WU (Win98/ working FAH only, DDR PC2100 (MIcron), 256MB, K7S5A Rev. 3.1) (this WU failed at 35% and was shut down by the core as causing instabilities. It states all of this in a narative on the console. The wu was closed and sent back to glean what info they could from the attempt. The core did all of this automatically).

XP1800+@1610 - 6.43min/frame / 10.73 hrs/WU (WinME, working FAH only, DDR PC2100 (crucial) 256MB, KR7A-R-133)

XP1800+@1633 - 6.26 min/frame / 10.43hrs/WU (WinME/ working FAHonly, DDR PC2400 (Corsair), 256MB, KR7A-R)

The assignment server has not issued one of these proteins to the P4 yet. Will post here when it does.
 
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PIII 1.0 Ghz Dell - 13:39/Frame - 22:45/WU - My working PC
PIII 933 HP Pavillion - 12:52/Frame - 21:26/WU
PIII 800 HP Pavillion - 15:10/Frame - 25:16/WU
Celeron 800 - 14:38/Frame - 24:23/WU
PIII 733 - 20:18/Frame - 33:50/WU
Celeron 600 - 25:36/Frame - 42:40/WU

These are all work PCs so they are idle most of the time.
 
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